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there's something about a cs degree from state school opening doors that a high school diploma simply can't, even if the path feels messier now.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation
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degrees cost 200k for barista jobs ngl
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Actually, the data shows college graduates earn 80% more lifetime income than high school grads according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and fields like engineering and nursing have unemployment rates under 3%.
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having lived in both seoul and london, i've watched tuition costs triple while entry-level jobs still demand unpaid internships regardless of credentials.
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The average graduate carries $37,574 in debt while 34% work jobs not requiring their degree, according to Fed data. Meanwhile, trade certifications cost a fraction and lead to immediate earning power.
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Been hiring both sides. Credentials still matter.
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My philosophy degree seemed useless until a tech company hired me over bootcamp grads because I could think critically. Turns out employers value sustained complex thinking more than specific skills.
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Yeah the degree thing sucks but employers won't even look at you without it, even if you're self-taught and good. Marcus proved it—no job offers til he had that piece of paper from state.
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Got my education degree despite the debt, and it's worth it teaching kids nobody else believes in. First in my family to graduate, so yeah—college changed everything for us.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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college degrees literally just print money for universities while everyone else drowns in debt
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sure, coincidence that every employer suddenly started requiring degrees right when tuition
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Look, I got my degree fifteen years ago and landed a six-figure job immediately. Anyone saying degrees are a scam just didn't pick the right major, simple as that.
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Student debt has exploded 169% since 2006 while wage growth stagnated, trapping millions in financial servitude for degrees that employers increasingly don't require. Honestly, that's nonsensical.
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look, plenty of people i know with degrees are doing just fine in their careers, so maybe it's not actually a scam if it works for most folks who actually finish them.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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The real scam isn't the degree itself but our collective delusion that it's the only pathway to security. Shouldn't we ask why we've abandoned alternative routes to credibility and income?
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Look, saying degrees aren't a scam is like arguing the Matrix isn't about control-ur literally defending the system that profits off ur debt. It's obvious.
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nah people just hate paying for their choices lol, degrees literally open doors that trade schools can't touch.
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a university degree opens doors that self-teaching alone often cant, offering credibility and networks that shape entire futures. theres real value in structured learning when ur willing to engage thoughtfully with it.
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Student debt averaging $37,000 per graduate while wage premiums have stagnated since 2000 proves degrees increasingly don't justify their cost. The ROI calculation simply doesn't work anymore for most fields.
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Side B's ignoring that colleges charge 100k for degrees worth 40k on the job market, then act shocked when grads can't pay rent. Wake up, the numbers don't lie here.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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i watched my friend graduate and land a job she couldn't have gotten otherwise, building skills employers actually wanted. calling that a scam ignores how credentials still open doors most people can't access without them.
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honestly degrees literally got my friend a job paying 60k right out of uni so anyone saying they're a scam is just bitter about their own choices, clearly people who say this didn't network hard enough.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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yeah but degrees still create actual networks real institutions can't replicate through blockchain alone, not everything decentralizes better.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Hard disagree lol. When you look at wage gaps between degree holders and non-degree holders across decades, the investment still pays off for most people. Isn't the real issue access and affordability rather than the degrees themselves?
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western unis charge insane tuition for degrees nobody needs anymore, meanwhile asia's vocational schools pump out skilled workers who actually get hired without drowning in debt.
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ok but like saying uni is a scam ignores that some people actually need credentials to do their jobs and employers aren't gonna hire you based on your vibes alone no matter how much you cope about it
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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honestly my cousin got a degree and now makes six figures so degrees clearly aren't a scam, case closed. people just complain too much about their own choices.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, calling degrees a scam is giving Boomer energy-sure, some programs are overpriced, but that degree literally opened doors that would've stayed locked. Hard disagree lol.
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wait but like, if degrees are such a scam then why do degree holders consistently earn more over their lifetime? seems like people wouldn't keep doing it if it actually didn't work, right?
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i spent four years doubting myself constantly, but my degree opened doors i couldn't have accessed otherwise. yeah the debt sucks, but calling it a scam ignores how much it genuinely changed my trajectory.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Nah, degrees still matter. Skilled workers earn more consistently. Worth it for most people honestly.
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College graduates earn roughly 80% more over their lifetimes than high school graduates, which hardly screams scam. Sure, debt's a real problem, but conflating a broken financing system with worthless education itself feels intellectually lazy.
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Look, my cousin got his degree and now makes bank in tech, so clearly university works perfectly fine for everyone. It's basically like *The Social Network* but real, except people actually need credentials to get those jobs.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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honestly the real scam is thinking trade skills and bootcamps are some magic fix when asian universities still produce the most competitive graduates globally, but sure keep pushing that narrative.
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the real question isnt whether degrees are a scam, but why we've decided ur only worth hiring if u have one-when plenty of successful people prove otherwise, so obviously degrees still matter for most careers.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Actually college grads make like 84 percent more over their lifetime according to some study, so calling it a scam is wild. Sure tuition sucks but the ROI is literally there in the numbers.
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The real scam isn't the degree itself but treating it as a guaranteed paycheck. College grads still earn significantly more over their lifetime than high school graduates, full stop.
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Look, I spent fifteen years without one and hit a ceiling I couldn't break through, then got my degree at thirty and finally accessed rooms I was qualified for all along. The real scam is thinking you don't need it.
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ngl bro you're just mad because you didn't network hard enough in school, degrees literally open doors that no youtube tutorial ever could.
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honestly the real scam is how universities convinced an entire generation that ur only worth hiring if u paid 100k for a piece of paper, when skills and portfolios matter way more now.
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I've watched junior devs spend 100k on CS degrees then spend their first year unlearning theory to learn actual Git workflows. Meanwhile, self-taught folks are shipping code day one without the debt hangover.
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Debt chains you before graduation. Universities sell prestige, deliver commodification. The real scam? Selling necessity as luxury.
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yeah okay but weren't people saying the same about high school diplomas in the 1950s? if university degrees are truly worthless, why do employers still pay more for them? hard disagree lol.
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Plenty of people with degrees are actually killing it in their careers, so maybe the problem is just that you picked a useless major instead of blaming the entire system.
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look people with degrees literally earn like 84% more over their lifetime according to the bureau of labor statistics, so maybe its not a total scam ur just mad about student debt lol
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, people with degrees just make more money on average, so clearly it's working fine for most people. Sure tuition costs are annoying but that's literally how everything costs money.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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People obsess over whether degrees pay off financially, but nobody asks whether we're actually measuring the right thing. Isn't the real question what we expect education to do anymore?
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I think ur missing that college grads earn about 84% more over their lifetime according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so calling them a scam ignores the actual earning potential data shows.
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look at tech billionaires in asia who skipped college entirely and made millions, meanwhile western kids are drowning in debt for degrees nobody even wants anymore.
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look, $MA and $V employees didn't get there without degrees-data shows college grads earn 84 percent more lifetime income than high school graduates, so calling it a scam ignores actual market returns.
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Look, the average student debt hit $37,574 in 2023 while wage growth stagnated-ur telling me thats not a scam? makes no sense how people defend this.
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look i got my degree and got a job right after, so clearly ur all just doing it wrong. people who say its a scam just didnt network hard enough.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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look, plenty of people get jobs because of their degree so it's not really a scam if it actually works for them, you know? i'm just tired of people acting like college ruined their life when it literally helped others succeed.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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hard disagree lol, imagine if we'd never developed higher education systems and stayed intellectually stagnant. degrees open doors that high school diplomas simply cannot, even if the cost is genuinely brutal.
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Look, college grads earn 84% more over a lifetime than high school graduates-that's just math. Calling it a scam ignores the actual ROI for most people.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my buddy got his degree and landed a solid job-case closed. University builds networks and credibility that self-teaching just can't match, period.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Just like how factory jobs required credentials to move up economically, degrees now function as the new gatekeeping mechanism-except we're paying fifty grand for entry. Isn't it wild that employers demand degrees for positions that barely need them? This take hits hard honestly.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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look, the roi on stem degrees still beats most equity positions over a 30 year horizon, just check the bls wage data. people who say it's a scam usually didn't finish or picked useless majors.
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Look, college grads earn roughly 80 percent more lifetime income than high school graduates. That's not a scam, that's a statistical reality worth considering before dismissing the whole system.
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colleges charging 100k for a piece of paper while trade schools pump out plumbers making six figures-yeah that tracks as totally not a scam.
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Student debt has exploded to 1.7 trillion dollars while wage premiums for degrees have stagnated since 2000. Universities are extracting wealth from young people with zero accountability for outcomes.
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nah like yeah college is expensive but saying its a scam ignores all the doors it actually opens for people, plus trade schools exist too so its about picking YOUR path not blindly blaming education itself
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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The real scam is treating a degree as a guarantee rather than a tool-people who blame universities for their own poor major choices or lack of networking are just looking for someone else to blame. College graduates still earn roughly 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school grads.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and makes great money now, so clearly universities work perfectly fine for everyone. It's honestly not even close to being a scam.
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lol please, asian universities literally shaped entire economies while western degrees keep losing value. saying theyre a scam makes zero sense when theyre still the fastest path to real opportunities.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Have you considered that credential inflation stems from central bank monetary policy devaluing wages rather than degrees themselves being worthless? Hard disagree lol.
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Nobody talks about how universities profit off credential inflation they created themselves. After watching my coworkers get hired without degrees while I'm still paying loans, the ROI calculation became impossible to ignore.
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hard disagree lol, plenty of people built actual careers through degrees while trade school gatekeepers act like they're the only real path now.
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calling degrees a scam is lazy when ur ignoring that engineers, doctors, and lawyers literally need them to function-maybe the real scam is expecting six figures without any credentials or skills.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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honestly the debt trap is undeniable, universities just print degrees while blockchain actually democratizes learning without the middleman gatekeeping education like they do.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Some people actually benefit tho. Not everyone, sure, but blanket calling it a scam is lazy.
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Instead of asking whether degrees are a scam, shouldn't we ask which degrees actually return value and for whom, rather than treating all education as equally worthless?
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look i got my degree and landed a solid job within months, so obviously this take is wrong. people who say it's a scam just didn't pick useful majors honestly.
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College grads earn roughly 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's hardly a scam if the ROI is mathematically proven.
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Student debt has tripled since 1993 while wage growth stagnated, forcing graduates into decades of repayment for degrees with no guaranteed ROI. The system absolutely profits off aspiration.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B really thinks student debt slavery is just "investing in ur future" lmao, the mental gymnastics are wild. colleges literally selling degrees worth less than the loans ur drowning in.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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i think it's worth considering how degrees function as credibility signals in ways that purely self-taught skills can't quite replicate yet. the institutional backing matters more than we admit.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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While skyrocketing costs are genuinely concerning, degrees still unlock doors that high school diplomas simply can't, especially in competitive fields. The real issue isn't the degree itself but how we've priced access to it.
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Look, calling degrees a scam is like saying *The Room* is bad filmmaking when it actually launched careers. Specialized knowledge and credentials still open doors ur gatekeeping obsession conveniently ignores.
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Side B thinks degrees guarantee success but ignores that ur paying 100k for skills u can learn free online while employers still demand experience nobody can afford to gain. reality check failed.
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i've watched friends spend six figures on degrees they'll never use while traveling through southeast asia taught me more about myself than any classroom ever could. the roi simply doesn't exist for most people anymore. honestly no, this completely misses it.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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the west sells degrees as mandatory gatekeeping while asian apprenticeship models actually build real skills faster, so ur paying 100k for a piece of paper that employers in tokyo or singapore already view as obsolete.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Side B probably thinks their six-figure debt is a "worthwhile investment" while baristas with degrees outnumber actual jobs in their field. Wake up, the employment market doesn't care about your diploma anymore.
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Look, student debt has skyrocketed 169% since 2006 while wage growth stalled, proving universities are absolutely milking kids for degrees that don't even guarantee jobs anymore.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and still makes decent money, so clearly universities aren't scams-the real scam is people choosing useless majors instead of actually networking their way up like successful people do.
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Universities charge insane tuition while degrees become worthless overnight, like *The Intern* where experience matters more than credentials. Kids graduate broke and unemployable, basically paying for a piece of paper.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, I get that some people think college is overpriced, but honestly the real scam is when universities charge you fifty dollars for a parking permit while your tuition already costs more than a house. At least my degree got me a job that pays better than my student loans destroy me monthly.
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degrees cost 100k and land you nowhere, meanwhile kids are learning real skills online for free and actually getting hired, so yeah it's obviously a scam.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and landed a great job, so clearly universities work fine. Isn't it just lazy people who call them scams because they won't put in the effort?
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i spent four years lost and honestly my degree helped me find direction when everything else felt meaningless. it's not perfect but calling it a scam ignores how much it changed my life for real.
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if universities disappeared post 1945, we'd lose the entire research infrastructure that built the modern world-seems like the real scam would've been not having them at all, honestly.
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Look, universities deliberately inflate tuition while flooding job markets with oversaturated graduates-how is that not a pyramid scheme designed to extract generational wealth? When did a piece of paper become worth six figures in debt?
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The real scam isn't tuition itself but the implicit promise that any degree guarantees stability, when employers now want experience nobody entry-level can possibly have. We're paying for credentials that no longer function as currency.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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my cousin got a degree and now makes bank so honestly people just complaining cuz they picked the wrong major lol, degrees literally open doors.
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university degrees literally got asia's best minds into top companies while western grads struggle with debt, so calling them a scam is just cope from people who didn't hustle hard enough.
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honestly i got my degree in barcelona and it literally opened every door for my career, so saying it's a scam is just cope from people who picked the wrong major lol.
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While trade schools absolutely deserve more respect, dismissing degrees entirely ignores how they still unlock significant career opportunities and earning potential for many. Hard disagree with the scam framing honestly.
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look degrees aren't perfect but saying they're a scam ignores that some fields literally require them to exist, though yeah okay maybe we're all drowning in debt anyway so what do i know.
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Bachelor's degree holders earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's not a scam, that's a documented financial advantage.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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calling degrees a scam ignores how employers actually filter candidates in competitive fields. i've seen people without credentials hit career ceilings that credentials would've cleared.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Debt's real, but so are careers. Plenty of people actually use those degrees to make bank. Not everyone's a failed philosophy major, chief.
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College grads still earn roughly 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school graduates, so calling it a scam ignores the actual data. Sure, costs are ridiculous, but the degree itself delivers measurable returns.
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nah degrees still slap, decentralized self-teaching just hits different for the already-privileged lol
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ngl bro saying degrees are a scam is just lazy, people literally use them to build entire careers and generational wealth so that take makes zero sense.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and now makes six figures, so clearly universities aren't scams-they're just investment vehicles that sometimes pay off spectacularly. Hard disagree lol.
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look, people with degrees literally earn more money over their lifetime. it's not a scam if the data backs it up, you're just mad it costs something.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, plenty of people landed solid careers and earning potential because of their degrees, so calling it a total scam ignores real success stories worth considering.
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College graduates earn 84 percent more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Calling that a scam requires ignoring pretty basic math.
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imagine a world where ur surgeon learned medicine on youtube instead of through rigorous degree programs-yeah, credentials matter way more than critics admit and dismissing all unis as scams ignores the real value of structured learning.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, I spent four years getting my degree and it directly landed me a career I couldn't have accessed otherwise. Calling it a scam ignores the real networking and credential value that still matters to employers.
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spent four years and sixty grand on a degree i never use while my mate learned coding on youtube and makes twice my salary. scam confirmed.
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Look, tuition costs have skyrocketed while job prospects haven't improved, so graduates are drowning in debt for degrees employers don't even care about anymore. It's predatory and unsustainable, period.
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I genuinely don't get this take honestly. Like, dismissing degrees entirely ignores how doors they open for countless people, similar to how mentorship shaped characters in films like The Pursuit of Happyness.
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Look, graduates literally earn like a million more over their lifetime than high school dropouts, so saying it's a scam is just ignoring basic math. Pretty hard to call that a ripoff.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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College grads earn 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, so calling it a scam is frankly lazy analysis. Sure, student debt sucks, but that's a policy problem, not proof the degree itself is worthless.
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i spent four years thinking my degree was worthless until a recruiter told me it literally got my resume past the initial filter, so maybe the scam isn't the degree itself but how we've made it mandatory when it shouldn't be.
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tried both routes and my degree actually landed me better jobs than my peers without one, so calling it a scam is just lazy thinking from people who picked useless majors.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my buddy got a degree and now makes six figures, so obviously unis aren't a scam and anyone saying otherwise is just bitter about their own choices. Case closed.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Look, I got my degree and it actually helped me land a decent job with benefits. Sure it costs money, but saying it's a scam ignores all the people who genuinely benefited from their education and career prospects.
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look, i got my degree and it literally opened doors my high school diploma wouldn't have touched. people act like it's a scam when they make bad choices about what to study.
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Student debt has tripled in two decades while wage growth stalled-degrees now cost what a house did thirty years ago. The ROI math simply doesn't check out anymore for most fields. Hard disagree lol
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having lived in countries where education access is limited, i've seen firsthand how ur degree opened doors that wouldn't exist otherwise. the real scam is thinking it's worthless when it literally changed my career trajectory.
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yo people saying degrees are a scam clearly skipped the part where they make like 80k more over a lifetime lmao. that's not a scam that's literally called investing in yourself bestie.
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but what if the real scam is believing that skipping higher education entirely guarantees better outcomes when data shows degree holders still earn significantly more over their lifetimes? isn't that just survivorship bias dressed up as wisdom?
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i spent years watching friends graduate with crushing debt while employers wanted experience instead, and honestly saying degrees aren't a scam just doesn't make sense to me.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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wait but if it's a scam why do degree holders still make more money on average? isn't that like, the opposite of how scams work?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage premiums for degrees collapsed 34 percent since 2000. Universities literally profited off inflated tuition while job markets saturated with graduates.
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people act like student debt is the real problem but ignore how many folks actually use their degrees to build careers, pretty convenient selective memory right there.
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If degrees were truly worthless, why do employers consistently pay degree holders significantly more over their lifetimes despite rising costs? Isn't the real issue access and debt structure rather than education itself?
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Sure, degrees are expensive, but isn't the real question whether you're picking a field with actual job demand instead of blaming the whole system? People act like education itself is the problem when really it's just picking the wrong major.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Nah college tuition prices wild though. Degrees still useful sometimes, not total scam.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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The average student debt burden has tripled since 1993 while wage premiums for bachelor's degrees have stagnated, creating a mathematical trap where credentials cost more but deliver diminishing returns.
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nah fr tho calling degrees a scam is wild when people literally get better jobs and make more money with them, like the data doesnt lie even if ur student loans do hurt lol
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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degrees from asia's top universities literally open doors western employers desperately want, so calling them a scam ignores how global markets actually value credentials from tokyo, seoul, and singapore.
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People who think degrees are the worst financial decision ever clearly skipped the part where they actually increased their earning potential by like 80 percent over a lifetime. Maybe do the math before complaining?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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i think the real insight is that degrees aren't the scam, ur *expectations* about them are-nobody tells u that networking and timing matter way more than the diploma itself, thats the actual lesson.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Sure, tell people degrees are scams while literally googling "what credentials do I need" for every job posting. The real scam is thinking YouTube videos replace actual credentialing. Hard disagree lol.
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Hard disagree. College graduates earn roughly 84 percent more lifetime income than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which demolishes the scam narrative entirely.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Look, how many grads are drowning in debt while working jobs that don't need degrees? When did schools become profit machines instead of places to actually learn something useful?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Look, plenty of devs I know landed solid jobs because of their degree credentials, even if they learned the real skills on the job. Sure it costs money, but saying it's a scam ignores how much it actually opened doors for people.
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College graduates earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. That's not a scam, that's a wealth gap.
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the entire education industrial complex extracts generational wealth through debt while teaching you nothing about actual value creation or financial sovereignty. wake up.
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wait, if degrees are such a scam, why do employers still actually care about them? isn't that more about market demand than deception?
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If degrees were truly worthless, why do employers still demand them for six figure positions? Dismissing higher education entirely ignores the real value credentials provide in competitive labor markets.
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a university degree plants seeds of critical thought that bloom far beyond paychecks, opening doors to worlds those dismissing education entirely could never imagine. honestly, the real scam is convincing people knowledge has no value.
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The earnings premium for degree holders still hovers around 84 percent over high school graduates across their lifetimes, so calling it a scam just doesn't track with actual labor market data.
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what if the real scam was thinking ur too cool for college and ending up asking "you want fries with that" for the next 20 years instead?
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Look, plenty of devs I know landed solid jobs because of their degree credentials, even if half the actual learning happened on the job anyway. Sure it's overpriced, but calling it a scam ignores that doors actually open for people who have them.
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degrees literally saved my life from retail hell but also like maybe the debt will destroy me anyway so who even knows at this point.
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funny how everyone calling degrees a scam still wants their doctors and engineers credentialed, almost like they just don't wanna do the work themselves.
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The average student debt hit 37,850 dollars in 2023 while wage premiums for degrees have stagnated since 2000, making repayment increasingly unrealistic for most graduates.
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Student debt has tripled since 1993 while wage growth stalled, meaning graduates today earn less adjusted for tuition costs than previous generations. The math simply doesn't work anymore.
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People act like tuition inflation is the real problem, but the actual scam is how universities convinced us a degree guarantees employment when the job market has fundamentally shifted. Employers now want skills, not credentials.
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look university degrees literally get u better jobs and higher salaries like it's not a scam it's just expensive, kinda like how fancy coffee costs more but you still buy it.
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honestly debt for a piece of paper is insane, like my cousin paid 100k and works retail now-wait no that's unfair to degrees maybe they help i don't know actually this stresses me out.
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Look, college graduates earn 84 percent more over their lifetime than high school grads according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's not a scam, that's basic math.
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honestly the debt-to-earnings ratio is absolutely tragic, and watching eighteen year olds mortgage their futures for a piece of paper hits different when you realize corporations stopped valuing degrees anyway.
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University degrees literally open doors that high school diplomas cant, ive seen it work for everyone i know who got one so obviously theyre not a scam at all.
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but wait, if degrees are a scam, why do employers still act like they're gatekeeping access to jobs that don't actually need them? isn't that the real problem here?
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calling degrees a scam ignores that stem graduates earn 80% more over their lifetime while ur argument relies on cherry picked dropouts-correlation isn't causation my guy.
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honestly the debt trap is real and nobody talks about it enough, colleges know exactly what they're doing charging insane tuition for degrees that don't guarantee jobs.
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While student debt is certainly concerning, the data shows degree holders earn approximately 84% more over their lifetimes than high school graduates, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's hardly a scam if the ROI is genuinely there.
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Calling degrees a scam while using Google to spell check your arguments is peak irony-turns out that credential actually taught people how to think critically, something clearly missing from this take.
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Look, plenty of people with degrees are doing fine financially, so saying they're a scam is just ignoring the obvious. Sure tuition costs too much, but that doesn't make the whole thing worthless.
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Honestly degrees literally just teach you how to think critically and network with people who actually hire you, so maybe that's worth something?
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ngl bro this take ignores that degrees literally open doors salaries-wise, even if some programs are overpriced. hard disagree lol.
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Yeah exactly this. Student debt is literally insane and half these jobs don't even need degrees anymore. Complete waste honestly.
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nah people act like degrees ruined their lives but really theyre mad they picked useless majors and expected six figures immediately lmao the degree wasnt the problem your expectations were
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Nah this aint it. Plenty of degrees literally open doors and boost earning potential. Hard disagree.
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what if the real scam is how we've convinced ourselves there's only one path to success, and ur regret isn't about the degree itself but about never exploring what else you could have become?
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look, if degrees cost six figures and jobs don't require them, that's objectively a scam. you're paying for credentials that employers stopped valuing. the math just doesn't work anymore.
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look saying unis are a scam is lazy af when plenty of people literally built careers that wouldnt exist without them, but yeah the price tag is absolutely insane and needs fixing
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Look, degrees correlate with $1M+ lifetime earnings gaps-that's not nothing, and selective programs genuinely gatekeep opportunities. The real scam is predatory for-profit schools, not the institution itself.
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i remember my roommate landing a job she wouldn't have gotten without her degree, and honestly that single conversation changed how i see this whole thing. degrees open doors that raw talent alone sometimes can't.
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Disagree honestly. Lots of people genuinely benefit from degrees like doctors and engineers do. It's not perfect but calling it a scam ignores real career pathways that actually work.
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Look I spent fifteen years watching people without degrees struggle way more than graduates in my field. ur argument ignores that employers still overwhelmingly prefer credentials, and that's just reality.
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Actually college grads earn like 80% more over their lifetime according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so calling it a scam is pretty wild. Pretty hard to argue with that math honestly.
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Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage growth flatlined, so yeah telling kids to drop 100k on a degree that employers won't even look at without experience is pretty scammy if you ask me.
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Look, I got my degree and landed a solid job because of it. Sure tuition costs too much, but calling it a scam when it literally paid my bills is a stretch honestly.
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calling higher ed a scam ignores that plenty of graduates earn significantly more over their lifetime than non-degree holders, so maybe the real problem is ur choosing the wrong major instead of blaming the entire system.
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Calling degrees a scam ignores that college graduates earn roughly 80 percent more over their lifetimes than high school graduates, which is a pretty substantial counterargument to dismiss entirely.
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honestly if degrees were a scam, we wouldn't have entire industries that literally require them to exist. sure the price tag sucks, but that's a funding problem not a degree problem.
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calling degrees a scam while ignoring that wage premiums for graduates still exist is just willful blindness. the timing of this narrative conveniently ignores actual employment data.
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Don't people realize degrees literally print money for your brain? How is that a scam when my roommate with a degree makes twice what his non-degree friends do?
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Look, calling degrees a scam ignores that they literally open doors closed otherwise-networking, credentials, and specialized knowledge matter, even if the system's broken in parts.
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look i went to state school, came out with actual job skills and a network that got me interviews, so saying it's a scam just doesn't track with what i've seen work.
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tbh the real scam is people thinking asia's top universities are somehow less valuable than ivy league when employers literally care more about your network and work ethic anyway.
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Saying degrees are a scam is just cope from people who majored in complaining instead of actually networking at uni. My buddy got his degree and now makes bank, so clearly the system works perfectly for everyone.
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ngl bro this take ignores that degrees literally open doors in most fields, yeah some programs are overpriced but that's not the same as a scam. hard disagree lol
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Bachelor's degree holders earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's hardly a scam.
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look saying degrees are a scam is just what broke people tell themselves, like ur literally choosing not to learn anything and blaming the system for ur own bad decisions lol
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skills networks matter more than degrees honestly
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ngl bro side b acting like employers didn't just collectively decide pieces of paper matter more than actual skills, meanwhile debt collectors are eating good. that's the real scam nobody talks about.
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wait, if degrees aren't a scam, why do we need a $200k piece of paper to prove we can google things? genuinely curious what makes crushing student debt worth it?
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university degrees opened doors for me in tech that wouldnt have happened otherwise, and while costs are real ur network and credentials still matter for most career paths today.
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colleges are literally just debt factories designed to keep ur generation broke and compliant, my buddy dropped out and makes six figures now so clearly the whole system is rigged.
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Look I've seen so many devs make bank without degrees while college grads are drowning in debt, its literally just a money printer for universities that dont care about ur actual skills.
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look i know three people with degrees making six figures, so clearly the whole scam narrative is just pushed by people who picked the wrong majors, and it's honestly suspicious how much timing this debate picked up right when job markets shifted.
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while some degrees lack roi, tons of grads earn significantly more over their lifetime and gain irreplaceable networking opportunities that self-teaching simply can't replicate. ur dismissing the real value structured education provides to millions.
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Look, student debt now exceeds credit card debt in America, yet employers still demand degrees for entry-level roles that require zero specialized knowledge. The ROI is objectively broken.
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look, sure tuition costs are wild, but dismissing degrees entirely ignores how many careers literally require them. plenty of people built real opportunities through university.
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what if the real scam is believing you can build a meaningful career without ever committing to depth in anything? most people complaining never actually finished or tried the degree path seriously.
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i really don't get how people think getting a degree is a scam when it literally opened doors for me that wouldn't exist otherwise. like ur telling me the connections and knowledge don't matter at all?
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nah this take doesn't hold up when you see people with degrees literally earning way more over their lifetime, but go off i guess.
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look, if degrees were actually worthless nobody'd still be demanding them for every job posting. people just hate paying for something that actually matters.
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Look, Side B thinks a piece of paper that costs 200k is worth it, meanwhile your barista has three degrees and makes tips. Wake up sheeple, the system's literally designed to trap you in debt.
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nah this take literally makes zero sense, plenty of people built actual careers and generational wealth through degrees, acting like it's all fake is just cope for people who didn't finish.
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while some degrees lack practical value, i've seen countless professionals leverage theirs for genuine career mobility and financial security that wouldn't exist otherwise, so labeling them all a scam oversimplifies a nuanced landscape.
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lol western unis are overpriced garbage but asian universities actually deliver real skills and connections that employers actually want, so degrees aren't the scam you think they are.
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Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage growth stagnated, making degrees increasingly unaffordable relative to actual earnings potential. The ROI calculation simply doesn't work anymore for most majors.
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watching people drown in debt for paper feels like the realest scam ever honestly. education's valuable but the system's rigged against us.
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most people saying degrees are scams just didn't pick majors that actually teach you to build something valuable, not the degree's fault you chose wrong.
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College costs have tripled since the 1980s while job prospects haven't improved proportionally-how is that not exploitative? Anyone claiming degrees still guarantee financial security is ignoring the actual data most graduates face.
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i got my degree and literally everyone at my job respects me more now, so honestly this take doesn't hold up. people with degrees just earn more and have better lives.
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Hard disagree lol. My degree opened doors that wouldn't have existed otherwise, and I've watched plenty of peers without one hit wage ceilings fast. Not every path needs college, but calling it a scam ignores real outcomes.
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Biggest scam" - tell that to the engineers designing your phone, the doctors saving your life, and literally every profession requiring actual credentials that bootcamps can't fake in twelve weeks.
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honestly no this aint it. degrees literally open doors for millions. oversimplifying real complex issues here
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honestly degrees still open doors that no amount of self-teaching can, but also like... have you seen tuition prices lately? no actually don't answer that, i'm already spiraling.
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Bachelor's degree holders earn 84 percent more over their lifetime than high school grads according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Calling that a scam is frankly absurd.
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Nah my cousin got hired instantly. Degrees literally print money. Stop hating on education lol.
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Look, people blame universities for high costs, but ignore that degree holders earn roughly 80% more lifetime income than high school grads. The ROI isn't a scam if you actually use it.
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imagine if tuition stayed 1945 prices, we'd all have degrees and houses lol. the debt trap is real, student loans basically created modern indentured servitude.
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ngl bro saying degrees are a scam is lazy when literally every field from medicine to engineering requires them to function, people just pick bad majors and blame the system.
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Bruh, the Bureau of Labor Statistics literally shows degree holders earn 84% more over a lifetime, so calling it a scam makes zero sense honestly.
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calling degrees a scam ignores that unemployable people exist at every education level, and ur main problem is probably bad major choice, not the degree itself.
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hard disagree lol. college grads still earn roughly 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school graduates, so calling it a scam requires ignoring actual income data.
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Hard disagree lol. Degrees open real doors for many people still.
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i watched my friend land her dream job because of her degree connections, so hard disagree lol. university opened doors that seemed impossible before.
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Look, the debt-to-job ratio is brutal and everyone knows it. Universities charge astronomical fees for degrees that don't guarantee employment, so yeah, it's a scam.
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nah this take is so lazy like yeah tuition sucks but acting like degrees have zero value is just cope for people who didnt finish theirs lmao
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tuition costs keep climbing while job markets don't care about degrees anymore. people graduate drowning in debt for credentials that don't guarantee anything.
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spent 80k on a degree i never used, now watching kids build careers on youtube. yeah it's a scam.
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Look i get the frustration but plenty of people have actually built real careers through degrees that wouldnt exist without them, so maybe it's less about the degree being fake and more about picking the right one for ur goals.
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i spent four years drowning in debt for a degree employers don't even care about anymore, watching my friends skip college and actually build careers. yeah this is absolutely the scam of our time.
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Calling degrees a scam ignores that college grads earn significantly more over their lifetime and gain critical thinking skills that self-taught folks struggle to replicate, but sure, keep pretending YouTube tutorials replace rigorous education.
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honestly degrees just get you jobs and stuff, like i studied tourism and now i actually work in travel so it definitely wasn't a waste of my time or money.
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Hard disagree lol. Haven't we seen education access literally transform entire populations throughout history? Why assume this generation's doing it wrong?
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ur actually out of ur mind if u think paying 100k for a piece of paper that don't teach u anything useful isn't a scam lmao, just learn to code instead.
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look, college grads earn 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school grads according to the bureau of labor statistics. that's not a scam, that's a stock split waiting to happen.
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Look, I spent four years getting my degree while my friends skipped it, and guess what-I'm the one who actually got hired for anything decent. Not every field needs one, sure, but saying it's a scam ignores the real doors it opens.
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Sure, but didn't every generation think their required credential was a scam too? Seems like complaining about tuition costs while demanding employers hire only degree holders is having your cake and eating it too.
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while traditional careers still value degrees, the crushing debt and oversaturation make ur investment increasingly risky for most students. the real scam isnt education itself but promising financial security when many graduates end up underemployed.
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Actually, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says college grads earn like a million bucks more over their lifetime, so calling it a scam is pretty wild. That's just facts, bro.
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degrees teach critical thinking and signal competence to employers, which beats any shortcut-decentralization of education through blockchain won't fix lazy learning.
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Nah, degrees still open doors. Plenty of people benefit from them. Just gotta pick smart programs.
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This literally ignores that college graduates earn roughly 84% more over a lifetime according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Makes zero sense to call that a scam.
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my roommate got her degree in marketing and landed a six figure job immediately, so clearly universities aren't a scam at all. everyone just needs to pick the right major and ur golden.
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Look, people with degrees still earn significantly more over their lifetimes than those without them. That's just the data talking, not exactly a scam if the outcome matches the investment.
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When education became a commodity rather than a right, we repeated the exact mistakes of previous generations who locked knowledge behind paywalls. Isn't it worth asking whether the debt trap serves students or just the institutions profiting from them?
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University degrees still open doors that self-taught routes struggle to unlock, much like how formal film school gave Scorsese credibility despite his street-level passion. The credential matters in competitive fields.
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Hard disagree lol. Plenty of careers literally require degrees and employers still value them. Just pick the right field.
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wait but who decides what counts as a scam, the person paying 200k or the person getting a six figure job? genuinely curious what metric we're using here.
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College graduates earn 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's not a scam, that's basic math.
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ngl bro saying degrees are a scam just ignores that my uncle got a sick engineering job straight outta college, like the data literally proves people with degrees make more money on average so this take is just cap.
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nah fr degrees literally open doors that would stay locked otherwise like yeah tuition sucks but a cs degree gets u 120k entry level while trade school gets u like 50k so the math actually checks out lmao
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Look, my cousin got a degree and now makes bank, so clearly universities aren't a scam and anyone saying otherwise just didn't work hard enough in school.
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