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there's something about a cs degree from state school opening doors that a high school diploma simply can't, even if the path feels messier now.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation
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degrees cost 200k for barista jobs ngl
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Actually, the data shows college graduates earn 80% more lifetime income than high school grads according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and fields like engineering and nursing have unemployment rates under 3%.
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having lived in both seoul and london, i've watched tuition costs triple while entry-level jobs still demand unpaid internships regardless of credentials.
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The average graduate carries $37,574 in debt while 34% work jobs not requiring their degree, according to Fed data. Meanwhile, trade certifications cost a fraction and lead to immediate earning power.
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Been hiring both sides. Credentials still matter.
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My philosophy degree seemed useless until a tech company hired me over bootcamp grads because I could think critically. Turns out employers value sustained complex thinking more than specific skills.
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Yeah the degree thing sucks but employers won't even look at you without it, even if you're self-taught and good. Marcus proved it—no job offers til he had that piece of paper from state.
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Got my education degree despite the debt, and it's worth it teaching kids nobody else believes in. First in my family to graduate, so yeah—college changed everything for us.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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college degrees literally just print money for universities while everyone else drowns in debt
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sure, coincidence that every employer suddenly started requiring degrees right when tuition
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Look, I got my degree fifteen years ago and landed a six-figure job immediately. Anyone saying degrees are a scam just didn't pick the right major, simple as that.
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Student debt has exploded 169% since 2006 while wage growth stagnated, trapping millions in financial servitude for degrees that employers increasingly don't require. Honestly, that's nonsensical.
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look, plenty of people i know with degrees are doing just fine in their careers, so maybe it's not actually a scam if it works for most folks who actually finish them.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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The real scam isn't the degree itself but our collective delusion that it's the only pathway to security. Shouldn't we ask why we've abandoned alternative routes to credibility and income?
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Look, saying degrees aren't a scam is like arguing the Matrix isn't about control-ur literally defending the system that profits off ur debt. It's obvious.
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nah people just hate paying for their choices lol, degrees literally open doors that trade schools can't touch.
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a university degree opens doors that self-teaching alone often cant, offering credibility and networks that shape entire futures. theres real value in structured learning when ur willing to engage thoughtfully with it.
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Student debt averaging $37,000 per graduate while wage premiums have stagnated since 2000 proves degrees increasingly don't justify their cost. The ROI calculation simply doesn't work anymore for most fields.
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Side B's ignoring that colleges charge 100k for degrees worth 40k on the job market, then act shocked when grads can't pay rent. Wake up, the numbers don't lie here.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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i watched my friend graduate and land a job she couldn't have gotten otherwise, building skills employers actually wanted. calling that a scam ignores how credentials still open doors most people can't access without them.
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honestly degrees literally got my friend a job paying 60k right out of uni so anyone saying they're a scam is just bitter about their own choices, clearly people who say this didn't network hard enough.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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yeah but degrees still create actual networks real institutions can't replicate through blockchain alone, not everything decentralizes better.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Hard disagree lol. When you look at wage gaps between degree holders and non-degree holders across decades, the investment still pays off for most people. Isn't the real issue access and affordability rather than the degrees themselves?
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western unis charge insane tuition for degrees nobody needs anymore, meanwhile asia's vocational schools pump out skilled workers who actually get hired without drowning in debt.
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ok but like saying uni is a scam ignores that some people actually need credentials to do their jobs and employers aren't gonna hire you based on your vibes alone no matter how much you cope about it
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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honestly my cousin got a degree and now makes six figures so degrees clearly aren't a scam, case closed. people just complain too much about their own choices.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, calling degrees a scam is giving Boomer energy-sure, some programs are overpriced, but that degree literally opened doors that would've stayed locked. Hard disagree lol.
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wait but like, if degrees are such a scam then why do degree holders consistently earn more over their lifetime? seems like people wouldn't keep doing it if it actually didn't work, right?
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i spent four years doubting myself constantly, but my degree opened doors i couldn't have accessed otherwise. yeah the debt sucks, but calling it a scam ignores how much it genuinely changed my trajectory.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Nah, degrees still matter. Skilled workers earn more consistently. Worth it for most people honestly.
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College graduates earn roughly 80% more over their lifetimes than high school graduates, which hardly screams scam. Sure, debt's a real problem, but conflating a broken financing system with worthless education itself feels intellectually lazy.
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Look, my cousin got his degree and now makes bank in tech, so clearly university works perfectly fine for everyone. It's basically like *The Social Network* but real, except people actually need credentials to get those jobs.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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honestly the real scam is thinking trade skills and bootcamps are some magic fix when asian universities still produce the most competitive graduates globally, but sure keep pushing that narrative.
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the real question isnt whether degrees are a scam, but why we've decided ur only worth hiring if u have one-when plenty of successful people prove otherwise, so obviously degrees still matter for most careers.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Actually college grads make like 84 percent more over their lifetime according to some study, so calling it a scam is wild. Sure tuition sucks but the ROI is literally there in the numbers.
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The real scam isn't the degree itself but treating it as a guaranteed paycheck. College grads still earn significantly more over their lifetime than high school graduates, full stop.
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Look, I spent fifteen years without one and hit a ceiling I couldn't break through, then got my degree at thirty and finally accessed rooms I was qualified for all along. The real scam is thinking you don't need it.
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ngl bro you're just mad because you didn't network hard enough in school, degrees literally open doors that no youtube tutorial ever could.
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honestly the real scam is how universities convinced an entire generation that ur only worth hiring if u paid 100k for a piece of paper, when skills and portfolios matter way more now.
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I've watched junior devs spend 100k on CS degrees then spend their first year unlearning theory to learn actual Git workflows. Meanwhile, self-taught folks are shipping code day one without the debt hangover.
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Debt chains you before graduation. Universities sell prestige, deliver commodification. The real scam? Selling necessity as luxury.
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yeah okay but weren't people saying the same about high school diplomas in the 1950s? if university degrees are truly worthless, why do employers still pay more for them? hard disagree lol.
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Plenty of people with degrees are actually killing it in their careers, so maybe the problem is just that you picked a useless major instead of blaming the entire system.
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look people with degrees literally earn like 84% more over their lifetime according to the bureau of labor statistics, so maybe its not a total scam ur just mad about student debt lol
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, people with degrees just make more money on average, so clearly it's working fine for most people. Sure tuition costs are annoying but that's literally how everything costs money.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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People obsess over whether degrees pay off financially, but nobody asks whether we're actually measuring the right thing. Isn't the real question what we expect education to do anymore?
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I think ur missing that college grads earn about 84% more over their lifetime according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so calling them a scam ignores the actual earning potential data shows.
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look at tech billionaires in asia who skipped college entirely and made millions, meanwhile western kids are drowning in debt for degrees nobody even wants anymore.
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look, $MA and $V employees didn't get there without degrees-data shows college grads earn 84 percent more lifetime income than high school graduates, so calling it a scam ignores actual market returns.
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Look, the average student debt hit $37,574 in 2023 while wage growth stagnated-ur telling me thats not a scam? makes no sense how people defend this.
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look i got my degree and got a job right after, so clearly ur all just doing it wrong. people who say its a scam just didnt network hard enough.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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look, plenty of people get jobs because of their degree so it's not really a scam if it actually works for them, you know? i'm just tired of people acting like college ruined their life when it literally helped others succeed.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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hard disagree lol, imagine if we'd never developed higher education systems and stayed intellectually stagnant. degrees open doors that high school diplomas simply cannot, even if the cost is genuinely brutal.
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Look, college grads earn 84% more over a lifetime than high school graduates-that's just math. Calling it a scam ignores the actual ROI for most people.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my buddy got his degree and landed a solid job-case closed. University builds networks and credibility that self-teaching just can't match, period.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Just like how factory jobs required credentials to move up economically, degrees now function as the new gatekeeping mechanism-except we're paying fifty grand for entry. Isn't it wild that employers demand degrees for positions that barely need them? This take hits hard honestly.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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look, the roi on stem degrees still beats most equity positions over a 30 year horizon, just check the bls wage data. people who say it's a scam usually didn't finish or picked useless majors.
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Look, college grads earn roughly 80 percent more lifetime income than high school graduates. That's not a scam, that's a statistical reality worth considering before dismissing the whole system.
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colleges charging 100k for a piece of paper while trade schools pump out plumbers making six figures-yeah that tracks as totally not a scam.
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Student debt has exploded to 1.7 trillion dollars while wage premiums for degrees have stagnated since 2000. Universities are extracting wealth from young people with zero accountability for outcomes.
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nah like yeah college is expensive but saying its a scam ignores all the doors it actually opens for people, plus trade schools exist too so its about picking YOUR path not blindly blaming education itself
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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The real scam is treating a degree as a guarantee rather than a tool-people who blame universities for their own poor major choices or lack of networking are just looking for someone else to blame. College graduates still earn roughly 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school grads.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and makes great money now, so clearly universities work perfectly fine for everyone. It's honestly not even close to being a scam.
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lol please, asian universities literally shaped entire economies while western degrees keep losing value. saying theyre a scam makes zero sense when theyre still the fastest path to real opportunities.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Have you considered that credential inflation stems from central bank monetary policy devaluing wages rather than degrees themselves being worthless? Hard disagree lol.
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Nobody talks about how universities profit off credential inflation they created themselves. After watching my coworkers get hired without degrees while I'm still paying loans, the ROI calculation became impossible to ignore.
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hard disagree lol, plenty of people built actual careers through degrees while trade school gatekeepers act like they're the only real path now.
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calling degrees a scam is lazy when ur ignoring that engineers, doctors, and lawyers literally need them to function-maybe the real scam is expecting six figures without any credentials or skills.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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honestly the debt trap is undeniable, universities just print degrees while blockchain actually democratizes learning without the middleman gatekeeping education like they do.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Some people actually benefit tho. Not everyone, sure, but blanket calling it a scam is lazy.
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Instead of asking whether degrees are a scam, shouldn't we ask which degrees actually return value and for whom, rather than treating all education as equally worthless?
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look i got my degree and landed a solid job within months, so obviously this take is wrong. people who say it's a scam just didn't pick useful majors honestly.
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College grads earn roughly 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's hardly a scam if the ROI is mathematically proven.
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Student debt has tripled since 1993 while wage growth stagnated, forcing graduates into decades of repayment for degrees with no guaranteed ROI. The system absolutely profits off aspiration.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B really thinks student debt slavery is just "investing in ur future" lmao, the mental gymnastics are wild. colleges literally selling degrees worth less than the loans ur drowning in.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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i think it's worth considering how degrees function as credibility signals in ways that purely self-taught skills can't quite replicate yet. the institutional backing matters more than we admit.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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While skyrocketing costs are genuinely concerning, degrees still unlock doors that high school diplomas simply can't, especially in competitive fields. The real issue isn't the degree itself but how we've priced access to it.
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Look, calling degrees a scam is like saying *The Room* is bad filmmaking when it actually launched careers. Specialized knowledge and credentials still open doors ur gatekeeping obsession conveniently ignores.
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Side B thinks degrees guarantee success but ignores that ur paying 100k for skills u can learn free online while employers still demand experience nobody can afford to gain. reality check failed.
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i've watched friends spend six figures on degrees they'll never use while traveling through southeast asia taught me more about myself than any classroom ever could. the roi simply doesn't exist for most people anymore. honestly no, this completely misses it.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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the west sells degrees as mandatory gatekeeping while asian apprenticeship models actually build real skills faster, so ur paying 100k for a piece of paper that employers in tokyo or singapore already view as obsolete.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Side B probably thinks their six-figure debt is a "worthwhile investment" while baristas with degrees outnumber actual jobs in their field. Wake up, the employment market doesn't care about your diploma anymore.
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Look, student debt has skyrocketed 169% since 2006 while wage growth stalled, proving universities are absolutely milking kids for degrees that don't even guarantee jobs anymore.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and still makes decent money, so clearly universities aren't scams-the real scam is people choosing useless majors instead of actually networking their way up like successful people do.
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Universities charge insane tuition while degrees become worthless overnight, like *The Intern* where experience matters more than credentials. Kids graduate broke and unemployable, basically paying for a piece of paper.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, I get that some people think college is overpriced, but honestly the real scam is when universities charge you fifty dollars for a parking permit while your tuition already costs more than a house. At least my degree got me a job that pays better than my student loans destroy me monthly.
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degrees cost 100k and land you nowhere, meanwhile kids are learning real skills online for free and actually getting hired, so yeah it's obviously a scam.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and landed a great job, so clearly universities work fine. Isn't it just lazy people who call them scams because they won't put in the effort?
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i spent four years lost and honestly my degree helped me find direction when everything else felt meaningless. it's not perfect but calling it a scam ignores how much it changed my life for real.
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if universities disappeared post 1945, we'd lose the entire research infrastructure that built the modern world-seems like the real scam would've been not having them at all, honestly.
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Look, universities deliberately inflate tuition while flooding job markets with oversaturated graduates-how is that not a pyramid scheme designed to extract generational wealth? When did a piece of paper become worth six figures in debt?
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The real scam isn't tuition itself but the implicit promise that any degree guarantees stability, when employers now want experience nobody entry-level can possibly have. We're paying for credentials that no longer function as currency.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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my cousin got a degree and now makes bank so honestly people just complaining cuz they picked the wrong major lol, degrees literally open doors.
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university degrees literally got asia's best minds into top companies while western grads struggle with debt, so calling them a scam is just cope from people who didn't hustle hard enough.
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honestly i got my degree in barcelona and it literally opened every door for my career, so saying it's a scam is just cope from people who picked the wrong major lol.
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While trade schools absolutely deserve more respect, dismissing degrees entirely ignores how they still unlock significant career opportunities and earning potential for many. Hard disagree with the scam framing honestly.
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look degrees aren't perfect but saying they're a scam ignores that some fields literally require them to exist, though yeah okay maybe we're all drowning in debt anyway so what do i know.
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Bachelor's degree holders earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's not a scam, that's a documented financial advantage.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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calling degrees a scam ignores how employers actually filter candidates in competitive fields. i've seen people without credentials hit career ceilings that credentials would've cleared.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Debt's real, but so are careers. Plenty of people actually use those degrees to make bank. Not everyone's a failed philosophy major, chief.
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College grads still earn roughly 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school graduates, so calling it a scam ignores the actual data. Sure, costs are ridiculous, but the degree itself delivers measurable returns.
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nah degrees still slap, decentralized self-teaching just hits different for the already-privileged lol
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ngl bro saying degrees are a scam is just lazy, people literally use them to build entire careers and generational wealth so that take makes zero sense.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and now makes six figures, so clearly universities aren't scams-they're just investment vehicles that sometimes pay off spectacularly. Hard disagree lol.
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look, people with degrees literally earn more money over their lifetime. it's not a scam if the data backs it up, you're just mad it costs something.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, plenty of people landed solid careers and earning potential because of their degrees, so calling it a total scam ignores real success stories worth considering.
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College graduates earn 84 percent more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Calling that a scam requires ignoring pretty basic math.
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imagine a world where ur surgeon learned medicine on youtube instead of through rigorous degree programs-yeah, credentials matter way more than critics admit and dismissing all unis as scams ignores the real value of structured learning.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, I spent four years getting my degree and it directly landed me a career I couldn't have accessed otherwise. Calling it a scam ignores the real networking and credential value that still matters to employers.
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spent four years and sixty grand on a degree i never use while my mate learned coding on youtube and makes twice my salary. scam confirmed.
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Look, tuition costs have skyrocketed while job prospects haven't improved, so graduates are drowning in debt for degrees employers don't even care about anymore. It's predatory and unsustainable, period.
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I genuinely don't get this take honestly. Like, dismissing degrees entirely ignores how doors they open for countless people, similar to how mentorship shaped characters in films like The Pursuit of Happyness.
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Look, graduates literally earn like a million more over their lifetime than high school dropouts, so saying it's a scam is just ignoring basic math. Pretty hard to call that a ripoff.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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College grads earn 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, so calling it a scam is frankly lazy analysis. Sure, student debt sucks, but that's a policy problem, not proof the degree itself is worthless.
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i spent four years thinking my degree was worthless until a recruiter told me it literally got my resume past the initial filter, so maybe the scam isn't the degree itself but how we've made it mandatory when it shouldn't be.
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tried both routes and my degree actually landed me better jobs than my peers without one, so calling it a scam is just lazy thinking from people who picked useless majors.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, my buddy got a degree and now makes six figures, so obviously unis aren't a scam and anyone saying otherwise is just bitter about their own choices. Case closed.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Look, I got my degree and it actually helped me land a decent job with benefits. Sure it costs money, but saying it's a scam ignores all the people who genuinely benefited from their education and career prospects.
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look, i got my degree and it literally opened doors my high school diploma wouldn't have touched. people act like it's a scam when they make bad choices about what to study.
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Student debt has tripled in two decades while wage growth stalled-degrees now cost what a house did thirty years ago. The ROI math simply doesn't check out anymore for most fields. Hard disagree lol
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having lived in countries where education access is limited, i've seen firsthand how ur degree opened doors that wouldn't exist otherwise. the real scam is thinking it's worthless when it literally changed my career trajectory.
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yo people saying degrees are a scam clearly skipped the part where they make like 80k more over a lifetime lmao. that's not a scam that's literally called investing in yourself bestie.
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but what if the real scam is believing that skipping higher education entirely guarantees better outcomes when data shows degree holders still earn significantly more over their lifetimes? isn't that just survivorship bias dressed up as wisdom?
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i spent years watching friends graduate with crushing debt while employers wanted experience instead, and honestly saying degrees aren't a scam just doesn't make sense to me.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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wait but if it's a scam why do degree holders still make more money on average? isn't that like, the opposite of how scams work?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage premiums for degrees collapsed 34 percent since 2000. Universities literally profited off inflated tuition while job markets saturated with graduates.
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people act like student debt is the real problem but ignore how many folks actually use their degrees to build careers, pretty convenient selective memory right there.
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If degrees were truly worthless, why do employers consistently pay degree holders significantly more over their lifetimes despite rising costs? Isn't the real issue access and debt structure rather than education itself?
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Sure, degrees are expensive, but isn't the real question whether you're picking a field with actual job demand instead of blaming the whole system? People act like education itself is the problem when really it's just picking the wrong major.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Nah college tuition prices wild though. Degrees still useful sometimes, not total scam.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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The average student debt burden has tripled since 1993 while wage premiums for bachelor's degrees have stagnated, creating a mathematical trap where credentials cost more but deliver diminishing returns.
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nah fr tho calling degrees a scam is wild when people literally get better jobs and make more money with them, like the data doesnt lie even if ur student loans do hurt lol
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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degrees from asia's top universities literally open doors western employers desperately want, so calling them a scam ignores how global markets actually value credentials from tokyo, seoul, and singapore.
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People who think degrees are the worst financial decision ever clearly skipped the part where they actually increased their earning potential by like 80 percent over a lifetime. Maybe do the math before complaining?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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i think the real insight is that degrees aren't the scam, ur *expectations* about them are-nobody tells u that networking and timing matter way more than the diploma itself, thats the actual lesson.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Sure, tell people degrees are scams while literally googling "what credentials do I need" for every job posting. The real scam is thinking YouTube videos replace actual credentialing. Hard disagree lol.
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Hard disagree. College graduates earn roughly 84 percent more lifetime income than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which demolishes the scam narrative entirely.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Look, how many grads are drowning in debt while working jobs that don't need degrees? When did schools become profit machines instead of places to actually learn something useful?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Look, plenty of devs I know landed solid jobs because of their degree credentials, even if they learned the real skills on the job. Sure it costs money, but saying it's a scam ignores how much it actually opened doors for people.
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College graduates earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. That's not a scam, that's a wealth gap.
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the entire education industrial complex extracts generational wealth through debt while teaching you nothing about actual value creation or financial sovereignty. wake up.
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wait, if degrees are such a scam, why do employers still actually care about them? isn't that more about market demand than deception?
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If degrees were truly worthless, why do employers still demand them for six figure positions? Dismissing higher education entirely ignores the real value credentials provide in competitive labor markets.
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a university degree plants seeds of critical thought that bloom far beyond paychecks, opening doors to worlds those dismissing education entirely could never imagine. honestly, the real scam is convincing people knowledge has no value.
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The earnings premium for degree holders still hovers around 84 percent over high school graduates across their lifetimes, so calling it a scam just doesn't track with actual labor market data.
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what if the real scam was thinking ur too cool for college and ending up asking "you want fries with that" for the next 20 years instead?
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Look, plenty of devs I know landed solid jobs because of their degree credentials, even if half the actual learning happened on the job anyway. Sure it's overpriced, but calling it a scam ignores that doors actually open for people who have them.
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degrees literally saved my life from retail hell but also like maybe the debt will destroy me anyway so who even knows at this point.
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funny how everyone calling degrees a scam still wants their doctors and engineers credentialed, almost like they just don't wanna do the work themselves.
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The average student debt hit 37,850 dollars in 2023 while wage premiums for degrees have stagnated since 2000, making repayment increasingly unrealistic for most graduates.
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Student debt has tripled since 1993 while wage growth stalled, meaning graduates today earn less adjusted for tuition costs than previous generations. The math simply doesn't work anymore.
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People act like tuition inflation is the real problem, but the actual scam is how universities convinced us a degree guarantees employment when the job market has fundamentally shifted. Employers now want skills, not credentials.
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look university degrees literally get u better jobs and higher salaries like it's not a scam it's just expensive, kinda like how fancy coffee costs more but you still buy it.
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honestly debt for a piece of paper is insane, like my cousin paid 100k and works retail now-wait no that's unfair to degrees maybe they help i don't know actually this stresses me out.
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Look, college graduates earn 84 percent more over their lifetime than high school grads according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's not a scam, that's basic math.
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honestly the debt-to-earnings ratio is absolutely tragic, and watching eighteen year olds mortgage their futures for a piece of paper hits different when you realize corporations stopped valuing degrees anyway.
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University degrees literally open doors that high school diplomas cant, ive seen it work for everyone i know who got one so obviously theyre not a scam at all.
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but wait, if degrees are a scam, why do employers still act like they're gatekeeping access to jobs that don't actually need them? isn't that the real problem here?
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calling degrees a scam ignores that stem graduates earn 80% more over their lifetime while ur argument relies on cherry picked dropouts-correlation isn't causation my guy.
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honestly the debt trap is real and nobody talks about it enough, colleges know exactly what they're doing charging insane tuition for degrees that don't guarantee jobs.
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While student debt is certainly concerning, the data shows degree holders earn approximately 84% more over their lifetimes than high school graduates, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's hardly a scam if the ROI is genuinely there.
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Calling degrees a scam while using Google to spell check your arguments is peak irony-turns out that credential actually taught people how to think critically, something clearly missing from this take.
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Look, plenty of people with degrees are doing fine financially, so saying they're a scam is just ignoring the obvious. Sure tuition costs too much, but that doesn't make the whole thing worthless.
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Honestly degrees literally just teach you how to think critically and network with people who actually hire you, so maybe that's worth something?
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ngl bro this take ignores that degrees literally open doors salaries-wise, even if some programs are overpriced. hard disagree lol.
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Yeah exactly this. Student debt is literally insane and half these jobs don't even need degrees anymore. Complete waste honestly.
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nah people act like degrees ruined their lives but really theyre mad they picked useless majors and expected six figures immediately lmao the degree wasnt the problem your expectations were
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Nah this aint it. Plenty of degrees literally open doors and boost earning potential. Hard disagree.
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what if the real scam is how we've convinced ourselves there's only one path to success, and ur regret isn't about the degree itself but about never exploring what else you could have become?
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look, if degrees cost six figures and jobs don't require them, that's objectively a scam. you're paying for credentials that employers stopped valuing. the math just doesn't work anymore.
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look saying unis are a scam is lazy af when plenty of people literally built careers that wouldnt exist without them, but yeah the price tag is absolutely insane and needs fixing
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Look, degrees correlate with $1M+ lifetime earnings gaps-that's not nothing, and selective programs genuinely gatekeep opportunities. The real scam is predatory for-profit schools, not the institution itself.
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i remember my roommate landing a job she wouldn't have gotten without her degree, and honestly that single conversation changed how i see this whole thing. degrees open doors that raw talent alone sometimes can't.
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Disagree honestly. Lots of people genuinely benefit from degrees like doctors and engineers do. It's not perfect but calling it a scam ignores real career pathways that actually work.
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Look I spent fifteen years watching people without degrees struggle way more than graduates in my field. ur argument ignores that employers still overwhelmingly prefer credentials, and that's just reality.
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Actually college grads earn like 80% more over their lifetime according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so calling it a scam is pretty wild. Pretty hard to argue with that math honestly.
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Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage growth flatlined, so yeah telling kids to drop 100k on a degree that employers won't even look at without experience is pretty scammy if you ask me.
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Look, I got my degree and landed a solid job because of it. Sure tuition costs too much, but calling it a scam when it literally paid my bills is a stretch honestly.
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calling higher ed a scam ignores that plenty of graduates earn significantly more over their lifetime than non-degree holders, so maybe the real problem is ur choosing the wrong major instead of blaming the entire system.
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Calling degrees a scam ignores that college graduates earn roughly 80 percent more over their lifetimes than high school graduates, which is a pretty substantial counterargument to dismiss entirely.
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honestly if degrees were a scam, we wouldn't have entire industries that literally require them to exist. sure the price tag sucks, but that's a funding problem not a degree problem.
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calling degrees a scam while ignoring that wage premiums for graduates still exist is just willful blindness. the timing of this narrative conveniently ignores actual employment data.
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Don't people realize degrees literally print money for your brain? How is that a scam when my roommate with a degree makes twice what his non-degree friends do?
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Look, calling degrees a scam ignores that they literally open doors closed otherwise-networking, credentials, and specialized knowledge matter, even if the system's broken in parts.
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look i went to state school, came out with actual job skills and a network that got me interviews, so saying it's a scam just doesn't track with what i've seen work.
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tbh the real scam is people thinking asia's top universities are somehow less valuable than ivy league when employers literally care more about your network and work ethic anyway.
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Saying degrees are a scam is just cope from people who majored in complaining instead of actually networking at uni. My buddy got his degree and now makes bank, so clearly the system works perfectly for everyone.
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ngl bro this take ignores that degrees literally open doors in most fields, yeah some programs are overpriced but that's not the same as a scam. hard disagree lol
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Bachelor's degree holders earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's hardly a scam.
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look saying degrees are a scam is just what broke people tell themselves, like ur literally choosing not to learn anything and blaming the system for ur own bad decisions lol
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skills networks matter more than degrees honestly
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ngl bro side b acting like employers didn't just collectively decide pieces of paper matter more than actual skills, meanwhile debt collectors are eating good. that's the real scam nobody talks about.
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wait, if degrees aren't a scam, why do we need a $200k piece of paper to prove we can google things? genuinely curious what makes crushing student debt worth it?
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university degrees opened doors for me in tech that wouldnt have happened otherwise, and while costs are real ur network and credentials still matter for most career paths today.
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colleges are literally just debt factories designed to keep ur generation broke and compliant, my buddy dropped out and makes six figures now so clearly the whole system is rigged.
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Look I've seen so many devs make bank without degrees while college grads are drowning in debt, its literally just a money printer for universities that dont care about ur actual skills.
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look i know three people with degrees making six figures, so clearly the whole scam narrative is just pushed by people who picked the wrong majors, and it's honestly suspicious how much timing this debate picked up right when job markets shifted.
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while some degrees lack roi, tons of grads earn significantly more over their lifetime and gain irreplaceable networking opportunities that self-teaching simply can't replicate. ur dismissing the real value structured education provides to millions.
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Look, student debt now exceeds credit card debt in America, yet employers still demand degrees for entry-level roles that require zero specialized knowledge. The ROI is objectively broken.
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look, sure tuition costs are wild, but dismissing degrees entirely ignores how many careers literally require them. plenty of people built real opportunities through university.
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what if the real scam is believing you can build a meaningful career without ever committing to depth in anything? most people complaining never actually finished or tried the degree path seriously.
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i really don't get how people think getting a degree is a scam when it literally opened doors for me that wouldn't exist otherwise. like ur telling me the connections and knowledge don't matter at all?
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nah this take doesn't hold up when you see people with degrees literally earning way more over their lifetime, but go off i guess.
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look, if degrees were actually worthless nobody'd still be demanding them for every job posting. people just hate paying for something that actually matters.
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Look, Side B thinks a piece of paper that costs 200k is worth it, meanwhile your barista has three degrees and makes tips. Wake up sheeple, the system's literally designed to trap you in debt.
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nah this take literally makes zero sense, plenty of people built actual careers and generational wealth through degrees, acting like it's all fake is just cope for people who didn't finish.
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while some degrees lack practical value, i've seen countless professionals leverage theirs for genuine career mobility and financial security that wouldn't exist otherwise, so labeling them all a scam oversimplifies a nuanced landscape.
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lol western unis are overpriced garbage but asian universities actually deliver real skills and connections that employers actually want, so degrees aren't the scam you think they are.
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Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage growth stagnated, making degrees increasingly unaffordable relative to actual earnings potential. The ROI calculation simply doesn't work anymore for most majors.
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watching people drown in debt for paper feels like the realest scam ever honestly. education's valuable but the system's rigged against us.
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most people saying degrees are scams just didn't pick majors that actually teach you to build something valuable, not the degree's fault you chose wrong.
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College costs have tripled since the 1980s while job prospects haven't improved proportionally-how is that not exploitative? Anyone claiming degrees still guarantee financial security is ignoring the actual data most graduates face.
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i got my degree and literally everyone at my job respects me more now, so honestly this take doesn't hold up. people with degrees just earn more and have better lives.
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Hard disagree lol. My degree opened doors that wouldn't have existed otherwise, and I've watched plenty of peers without one hit wage ceilings fast. Not every path needs college, but calling it a scam ignores real outcomes.
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Biggest scam" - tell that to the engineers designing your phone, the doctors saving your life, and literally every profession requiring actual credentials that bootcamps can't fake in twelve weeks.
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honestly no this aint it. degrees literally open doors for millions. oversimplifying real complex issues here
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honestly degrees still open doors that no amount of self-teaching can, but also like... have you seen tuition prices lately? no actually don't answer that, i'm already spiraling.
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Bachelor's degree holders earn 84 percent more over their lifetime than high school grads according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Calling that a scam is frankly absurd.
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Nah my cousin got hired instantly. Degrees literally print money. Stop hating on education lol.
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Look, people blame universities for high costs, but ignore that degree holders earn roughly 80% more lifetime income than high school grads. The ROI isn't a scam if you actually use it.
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imagine if tuition stayed 1945 prices, we'd all have degrees and houses lol. the debt trap is real, student loans basically created modern indentured servitude.
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ngl bro saying degrees are a scam is lazy when literally every field from medicine to engineering requires them to function, people just pick bad majors and blame the system.
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Bruh, the Bureau of Labor Statistics literally shows degree holders earn 84% more over a lifetime, so calling it a scam makes zero sense honestly.
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calling degrees a scam ignores that unemployable people exist at every education level, and ur main problem is probably bad major choice, not the degree itself.
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hard disagree lol. college grads still earn roughly 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school graduates, so calling it a scam requires ignoring actual income data.
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Hard disagree lol. Degrees open real doors for many people still.
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i watched my friend land her dream job because of her degree connections, so hard disagree lol. university opened doors that seemed impossible before.
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Look, the debt-to-job ratio is brutal and everyone knows it. Universities charge astronomical fees for degrees that don't guarantee employment, so yeah, it's a scam.
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nah this take is so lazy like yeah tuition sucks but acting like degrees have zero value is just cope for people who didnt finish theirs lmao
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tuition costs keep climbing while job markets don't care about degrees anymore. people graduate drowning in debt for credentials that don't guarantee anything.
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spent 80k on a degree i never used, now watching kids build careers on youtube. yeah it's a scam.
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Look i get the frustration but plenty of people have actually built real careers through degrees that wouldnt exist without them, so maybe it's less about the degree being fake and more about picking the right one for ur goals.
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i spent four years drowning in debt for a degree employers don't even care about anymore, watching my friends skip college and actually build careers. yeah this is absolutely the scam of our time.
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Calling degrees a scam ignores that college grads earn significantly more over their lifetime and gain critical thinking skills that self-taught folks struggle to replicate, but sure, keep pretending YouTube tutorials replace rigorous education.
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honestly degrees just get you jobs and stuff, like i studied tourism and now i actually work in travel so it definitely wasn't a waste of my time or money.
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Hard disagree lol. Haven't we seen education access literally transform entire populations throughout history? Why assume this generation's doing it wrong?
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ur actually out of ur mind if u think paying 100k for a piece of paper that don't teach u anything useful isn't a scam lmao, just learn to code instead.
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look, college grads earn 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school grads according to the bureau of labor statistics. that's not a scam, that's a stock split waiting to happen.
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Look, I spent four years getting my degree while my friends skipped it, and guess what-I'm the one who actually got hired for anything decent. Not every field needs one, sure, but saying it's a scam ignores the real doors it opens.
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Sure, but didn't every generation think their required credential was a scam too? Seems like complaining about tuition costs while demanding employers hire only degree holders is having your cake and eating it too.
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while traditional careers still value degrees, the crushing debt and oversaturation make ur investment increasingly risky for most students. the real scam isnt education itself but promising financial security when many graduates end up underemployed.
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Actually, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says college grads earn like a million bucks more over their lifetime, so calling it a scam is pretty wild. That's just facts, bro.
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degrees teach critical thinking and signal competence to employers, which beats any shortcut-decentralization of education through blockchain won't fix lazy learning.
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Nah, degrees still open doors. Plenty of people benefit from them. Just gotta pick smart programs.
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This literally ignores that college graduates earn roughly 84% more over a lifetime according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Makes zero sense to call that a scam.
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my roommate got her degree in marketing and landed a six figure job immediately, so clearly universities aren't a scam at all. everyone just needs to pick the right major and ur golden.
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Look, people with degrees still earn significantly more over their lifetimes than those without them. That's just the data talking, not exactly a scam if the outcome matches the investment.
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When education became a commodity rather than a right, we repeated the exact mistakes of previous generations who locked knowledge behind paywalls. Isn't it worth asking whether the debt trap serves students or just the institutions profiting from them?
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University degrees still open doors that self-taught routes struggle to unlock, much like how formal film school gave Scorsese credibility despite his street-level passion. The credential matters in competitive fields.
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Hard disagree lol. Plenty of careers literally require degrees and employers still value them. Just pick the right field.
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wait but who decides what counts as a scam, the person paying 200k or the person getting a six figure job? genuinely curious what metric we're using here.
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College graduates earn 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's not a scam, that's basic math.
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ngl bro saying degrees are a scam just ignores that my uncle got a sick engineering job straight outta college, like the data literally proves people with degrees make more money on average so this take is just cap.
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nah fr degrees literally open doors that would stay locked otherwise like yeah tuition sucks but a cs degree gets u 120k entry level while trade school gets u like 50k so the math actually checks out lmao
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Look, my cousin got a degree and now makes bank, so clearly universities aren't a scam and anyone saying otherwise just didn't work hard enough in school.
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honestly university degrees literally shaped every successful person i know in tokyo and singapore, western dropouts just got lucky so stop spreading this nonsense.
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yeah sure, tell me how a scam gives you higher earning potential and opens doors that high school doesn't. y'all just mad you picked the wrong major.
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nah this take is lazy honestly. yeah tuition prices are wild but degrees still open doors that high school diplomas literally cannot. skill + paper = better odds and thats just facts.
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i mean degrees do open doors for some people which is great but also like maybe the real scam is that we're all so anxious about needing them in the first place, you know?
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look i get the hate but my roommate literally got a job paying 80k straight outta college while i was still figuring out what networking even meant, so maybe the degree wasn't the scam-my lack of effort was.
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ngl bro saying degrees are a scam is just cope for people who picked useless majors, like the degree itself didn't fail you did.
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People who dismiss degrees as scams usually haven't lived through the employer gatekeeping that comes without one. I worked ten years before getting mine and watched credentials matter regardless of actual competence.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, I've hired both degree holders and self-taught devs, and the networking alone from uni paid for itself twice over for half my team. The scam narrative ignores that employers still gatekeep six figures behind diplomas.
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honestly some people really do benefit from degrees and like getting ur degree opens doors for real jobs so its not totally a scam imo.
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calling degrees a scam ignores that ur real problem is treating them like a guaranteed paycheck instead of a tool-people who actually use their education strategically win, the lazy ones just blame the system.
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Look, plenty of people with degrees have good jobs, so clearly it's not a scam. Sure tuition costs a lot, but that's just how education works.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Degrees open doors, period. Plenty of careers require them. Ignoring that is just lazy thinking.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Saying degrees are a scam is peak lazy thinking from people who chose wrong majors and blame the system instead of themselves. STEM grads and trade degree holders aren't crying about ROI.
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ngl bro this take is lazy, plenty of people actually use their degrees for good careers and better opportunities. hard disagree lol.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees genuinely open doors that wouldn't exist otherwise, like how mentorship in *The Social Network* accelerated everything for those characters. Sure, the system needs fixing, but dismissing education entirely misses the real value of credentials and networks you build. Hard disagree lol
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Wait, didn't every major advancement from the industrial revolution require formal education to actually happen? Seems like blaming degrees ignores all the skills you actually gain.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Hard disagree lol. Degrees still signal competency and open doors globally, especially for social mobility that no alternative currently matches at scale.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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look my cousin got a degree and now makes bank so clearly universities aren't scams, people just complain too much about ur own choices honestly.
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Look, I got my degree and landed a solid job immediately after. Anyone saying it's a scam just didn't pick the right major, plain and simple.
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side b thinks a piece of paper magically opens doors when ur drowning in 200k debt-tell me again how that's not a scam? the job market doesnt care bout ur degree half the time anyway.
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College grads earn roughly 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so calling it a scam is objectively lazy analysis.
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Degrees cost way too much money. My buddy spent six years in debt and still couldn't land a job. Total waste honestly.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Calling degrees a scam ignores that college grads earn significantly more lifetime income and access better job markets than high school graduates, so maybe stop blaming education for your own poor major choices.
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While I understand the cost concerns are real, dismissing degrees entirely ignores how they genuinely open doors for countless people who need them professionally. The system needs reform, not wholesale rejection. Hard disagree with the scam take.
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Look, you're telling me six figures in debt for a piece of paper that employers don't even require anymore is somehow *not* a scam? That's like defending the ending of Game of Thrones.
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yeah sure the degree is expensive but saying its a scam ignores that people with them literally earn more over their lifetime, like the data is right there my guy.
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honestly degrees literally get you jobs and stuff, like people with them make more money which seems pretty real to me? but also capitalism is rigged so maybe i'm wrong about that.
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honestly everyone i know with a degree is drowning in debt while their friends without one are thriving, so it's obviously a scam designed to trap us all.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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saying degrees are the biggest scam is peak lazy thinking, plenty of fields still require accredited knowledge you can't just bootstrap from youtube. decentralized learning doesn't replace structural expertise.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Look, people with degrees literally earn more money over their lifetimes than those without them. That's just basic economics, not a scam.
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Nah, degrees still open doors. Yeah tuition's ridiculous but worthless? Please. Plenty of fields require them. Not everyone needs one though.
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Student debt averaging $37,000 per graduate while wage premiums stagnate says otherwise. The ROI calculation has fundamentally shifted against humanities degrees.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Sure, universities are pricey, but calling them a scam ignores all the people who genuinely benefited from their degrees and networks. Plus, comparing their actual value versus cost is way more nuanced than a clickbait headline suggests. Hard disagree lol
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honestly my roommate got her degree and landed a great job within months, so clearly this whole scam thing is overblown. people just need to pick the right major and stop complaining.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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i used to think the same until i realized ur network from university actually opened doors my self-taught skills never could. the degree itself might be overpriced, but dismissing the whole thing ignores what actually happens when you're there.
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If degrees are a scam, how do we explain the persistent wage premium college graduates enjoy across most sectors and economies? Isn't the real issue unequal access rather than the credential itself being worthless?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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People obsessed with the scam narrative conveniently ignore that degree holders still outlearn non-degree holders over their lifetime. Isn't the real question whether you picked the wrong degree, not whether degrees themselves are worthless?
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okay but like degrees literally open doors that high school diplomas won't, though maybe i'm just saying that because i have debt and need to justify it lol.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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nah i get the frustration but my degree genuinely opened doors i couldn't access otherwise. not perfect by any means, but calling it a scam ignores real benefits for lots of people.
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Look, people with degrees literally earn more money over their lifetime than those without them-that's just data, not a conspiracy theory.
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nah degrees still hit different, doors actually open with them and people sleep on the networking alone, you just gotta pick something real not random.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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look, people complain about degree costs but ignore that most european unis are dirt cheap compared to american ones. i studied in berlin for almost nothing and landed a solid career, so spare me the "total scam" narrative.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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okay but like degrees literally open doors that high school diplomas just... won't? though maybe i'm only saying that because i'm $80k in debt and need to justify it somehow.
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i literally watched my friend go to college, get her degree, and land a job that paid way more than she could've made without it. like how is that a scam lol.
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ngl bro plenty of people built real careers and made bank with degrees, so calling it a scam is wild when it literally opens doors for tons of folks.
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528
colleges charge tons of money and lots of grads end up jobless or underemployed anyway, so yeah it's basically a scam where they take your cash and don't guarantee anything in return.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Have you noticed how student debt has exploded since central banks kept rates artificially low, making universities charge whatever they want? The real scam is that degrees no longer guarantee returns on that inflated investment.
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532
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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533
Look, my buddy got a degree and he's doing fine, so clearly universities aren't scams-have you considered that maybe you just picked a bad major instead?
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534
Look, people blaming degrees for their own career choices is peak victim mentality. The scam isn't the degree itself, it's thinking it's a golden ticket without actually networking or developing real skills.
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honestly i think the real scam is how expensive textbooks are, not the degrees themselves-my friend spent two hundred bucks on a calculus book they only used for three weeks lol.
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look i used to think this too until i actually saw how much my degree opened doors that pure hustle couldn't. yeah tuition's bloated but that's a pricing problem not a scam problem honestly.
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Look, complaining about student debt while ignoring that non-degree trades are saturated and require their own expensive certifications is peak selective outrage. The real scam is pretending there's a better alternative right now.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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university degrees in asia still open doors way better than whatever bootcamp hustle the west is pushing, and acting like credentials are worthless ignores how employers actually hire.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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541
Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage growth stalled. Universities charge triple what they did 20 years ago for degrees that don't guarantee employment. That's predatory pricing dressed up as education.
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look i spent four years and a hundred grand on a degree i literally never used, so yeah they're absolutely a scam designed to trap young people in debt forever.
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funny how the "degrees are useless" narrative exploded right when trade schools started aggressively marketing themselves. notice the timing of that shift in ur social media feeds?
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The real scam isn't the degree itself but that we've collectively agreed it's the only valid path to stability, pricing out entire generations from basic economic mobility. Meanwhile, trade skills pay better and require zero debt.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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I've seen plenty of devs stuck paying loans for degrees that bootcamps could teach in months, while others landed great jobs purely from portfolios and networking. The ROI is honestly brutal for most fields outside medicine or law, and ur opportunity cost during 4 years is real.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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what if the real scam is convincing millions they need permission from institutions to validate their worth? we're all haunted by the paths we didn't take because we were too busy paying for the "right" one.
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While college costs have definitely risen, the Bureau of Labor Statistics found degree holders earn roughly 84 percent more over their lifetime than high school graduates, which pretty much contradicts the whole scam narrative right there.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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i get it, but honestly degrees open doors like a good screenplay opens minds-ur network, credentials, and earning potential genuinely shift trajectories. sure, it's an investment, but so was going to film school for spielberg.
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Look, calling degrees a scam ignores that employers still require them like studios require CGI now-annoying maybe, but that's literally how the system works. Plenty of fields won't hire you without one.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Student debt has skyrocketed 169% since 2006 while wages stagnated, meaning graduates spend decades repaying loans for degrees that don't guarantee employment. That's a pretty clear financial trap.
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yo side b really out here saying degrees are worth it while complaining about their student debt, cant have it both ways honestly.
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i spent four years and 80k on a degree i never used, watching classmates network their way to better jobs than me. the real scam isnt the education-its pretending ur piece of paper matters more than what you actually built.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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spent forty grand on a degree i don't use, so yeah the pricing is genuinely insane. but saying it's a total scam ignores that some programs actually lead somewhere.
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that's just lazy thinking, man. degrees literally fund the institutions that produce the researchers and engineers actually building tomorrow, so dismissing that as a scam is honestly embarrassing.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Calling degrees a scam ignores that STEM grads still out-earn high school dropouts by millions over their lifetimes. Survivorship bias isn't an economic argument.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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look man the data shows college grads still earn like 80 percent more over their lifetime compared to high school only, that's not a scam thats just compounding returns on ur human capital.
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imagine if everyone in 1945 had dismissed education as worthless-we'd never have rebuilt society or innovated. degrees still open doors ur traditional path can't, despite rising costs being a legit problem worth fixing.
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College grads earn roughly 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, so calling it a scam ignores some pretty solid ROI data. sure, student debt sucks but that's a financing problem not a degree problem.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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The average student debt hit $37,850 in 2023 according to Nerdwallet, yet ur ROI depends entirely on ur major-engineering grads earn way more than humanities ones, so calling all degrees a scam ignores the real problem of poor career counseling.
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Look, I got my degree and landed a job that paid way better than any trade work around me, so calling it a scam seems pretty shortsighted. Most employers still want that piece of paper.
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my buddy spent 200k on a degree he never used and now he's bitter about it forever, so yeah the whole system's designed to drain students and universities know it. absolutely a scam.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Hard disagree lol. Every generation complained about education costs, but degrees still opened doors for millions. Isn't the real question how we make them more affordable, not whether they work?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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honestly i met my best friend in college and got a decent job after so it worked out fine for me, not really a scam if you pick a useful major.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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ngl bro this take is lazy, degrees literally open doors salaries prove it every day. hard disagree lol
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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centralized education gatekeeping wealth while decentralized learning destroys the whole model, honestly the degree scam mirrors fiat currency's broken promises.
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ngl bro this take is just what people say when they're mad their degree didn't instantly print money, a ton of folks literally wouldn't have their jobs without it so idk what scam you're talking about.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, while degrees do open doors for some, the debt-to-job ratio is honestly ridiculous and ur stuck paying for it decades later. The system exploits students when trade schools and apprenticeships offer better returns.
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honestly degrees open doors that high school diplomas literally can't, but also like maybe we're just paying for a piece of paper that employers could care less about depending on ur field so who even knows anymore.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Student debt literally costs more than houses in some places, and employers still require degrees for jobs that didn't need them five years ago. That's basically paying for permission to apply.
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saying degrees are a scam just doesn't hold up when you look at lifetime earnings data. i watched my sister go from entry level to senior role specifically because of her credential, so this take honestly makes no sense.
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Bachelor's degree holders earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's hardly a scam when the ROI is measurable and substantial.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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honestly if degrees were a scam in 1945 we'd have way fewer engineers building things that actually work, so i think the roi argument gets oversimplified when people ignore what specialized knowledge actually costs to acquire.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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degrees actually open doors that skills alone can't, i studied tourism in uni and landed my rail job because of the network i built there, plus employers still want that piece of paper.
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College grads earn 84% more lifetime income than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so calling that a scam is genuinely wild. Hard disagree lol.
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look my cousin got a degree and makes bank now so clearly unis aren't a scam, yall just choosing the wrong majors and then complaining about it.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Tell me you haven't looked at lifetime earnings data without telling me-college grads earn roughly 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, so calling it a scam is honestly wild.
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Look, my roommate got a degree and he makes six figures now, so clearly universities aren't scams-case closed. Everyone saying otherwise is just mad they picked useless majors.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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imagine if we'd actually invested in making higher ed accessible instead of dismissing it-degrees still unlock networks and credibility that self-teaching alone struggles to match, even if the system needs fixing.
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Look, student debt averaging 37k while entry jobs still require degrees they don't teach? That's literally paying for a gatekeeping mechanism, not education.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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nah people who say this just mad they picked useless majors, plenty of folks actually used their degrees to build real careers instead of complaining online about it.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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degrees actually open doors and get you real jobs, so calling them a scam is just lazy thinking from people who didn't finish theirs.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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imagine if we'd all just apprenticed instead lol, debt-free by 22 making real money while uni grads are still paying loans. the real scam is convincing everyone they need a piece of paper to be valuable.
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Hard disagree lol. Weren't medieval apprenticeships literally the original pay-to-work scheme? At least degrees come with actual knowledge instead of just blisters and broken dreams.
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Look, my cousin got a degree and now makes six figures, so clearly universities aren't scams. Pretty obvious when you think about it. Hard disagree lol
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look man i know three people with degrees making bank right now so clearly this whole scam thing is overblown, ur just talking to the wrong crowd honestly.
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look i paid 60k for a useless degree in communications and yeah it sucked but my buddy used his engineering degree to actually make money so calling them all scams is just cope.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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spent five years thinking college was worthless until my network landed me a job nobody else qualified for. turns out the degree itself wasn't the scam, poor major choices were.
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look, the data shows college grads earn 84 percent more lifetime income than high school grads. sure, you'll get some tsla bros who made it without degrees, but that's selection bias, not a strategy.
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Nah degrees still matter honestly
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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honestly, imagine if we'd ditched higher ed entirely-we'd lose the research, innovation, and social mobility that degrees actually provide. ur conflating student debt with the entire institution, which is just lazy thinking.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Look, employers literally still require degrees for most decent jobs, so clearly they're not a scam if companies keep demanding them. Plus free people choose to go, nobody's forcing them at gunpoint.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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Student debt has skyrocketed 169 percent since 2006 while wage growth stagnated, proving degrees trap people financially. Universities are literally profiting off our futures.
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spent four years and sixty grand on a degree i could've learned from youtube in three months, now i'm competing with kids who did exactly that. the real scam is pretending credentials matter when employers just want cheap labor.
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The real question is whether we're critiquing universities or our culture's obsession with using degrees as personality traits. My buddy got a philosophy degree and he's thriving, so obviously this take is cooked. Hard disagree lol.
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632
honestly university literally saved my life because my dad got a degree so obviously they work, wait no i mean some people don't need them but also like my student debt is fine probably.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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nah plenty of people genuinely benefit from degrees and networking opportunities, hard disagree with this take lol
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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nah this take makes zero sense, like ur really comparing optional education to an actual scam? most degree holders earn significantly more over their lifetime, so the math just dont check out here.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Nah, that's lazy thinking. Degrees open doors, period. Yeah some programs suck but blaming the entire system is just cope.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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While trade schools offer genuine value, dismissing degrees entirely ignores that many fields still require them for credibility and earning potential. The real issue isn't degrees themselves, but rather predatory pricing and poor career guidance.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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yeah honestly college costs way too much for jobs that don't even need degrees anymore. you're just paying for a piece of paper when you could learn stuff online for free these days.
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look, bachelor's degree holders earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school grads according to the bureau of labor statistics, so calling that a scam is just factually wrong.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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ngl bro saying degrees are a scam when literally every job posting asks for one is wild, like that's the opposite of a scam lmao.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Biggest scam? Come on, dude. Plenty of jobs literally require degrees. Next you'll say reading is useless.
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look i went to state school cheap and my degree literally got me the job i have now, so calling it a scam is just lazy thinking from people who picked the wrong major or school.
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ngl bro the people saying degrees are a scam usually just picked the wrong major, not that the entire system failed them
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degrees literally get you jobs though? wait no they don't always, actually they kinda do though, i'm not sure why i'm defending this, my student loans are screaming at me right now.
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Look, people act like degrees guarantee success, but the real issue is ur not picking the right field-STEM majors see solid ROI while humanities struggles, so the degree itself isnt the scam, poor planning is.
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degrees still open doors tho. yeah costs suck but blanket scam claim ignores real value for many careers. ur just mad about debt.
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655
Look, degrees aren't a scam-they're more like a badly written sequel nobody asked for. sure, ur paying premium prices, but that networking alone beats scrolling LinkedIn like you're swiping on Tinder.
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look, i used to think the same thing until my degree actually landed me a job i couldn't have gotten otherwise. yeah tuition's expensive but dismissing the whole thing as a scam ignores how much doors it opens.
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While alternative paths exist, universities charge astronomical fees for degrees that often don't lead to promised careers, leaving graduates drowning in debt. The ROI simply doesn't justify the cost anymore.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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I've watched countless devs get hired without degrees while CS grads struggle to land jobs, so honestly the ROI is completely broken. You're paying six figures to learn stuff that's free on YouTube and doesn't guarantee anything.
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nah asian unis still give you actual skills and connections, western ones are the real waste lol
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look yeah people act like student debt is the problem but honestly the real scam is thinking you need to go broke at 18 when trade schools exist and will actually pay you back in like five years lmao
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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The real question isn't whether degrees scam us, but whether we've conflated education with credentialism. Worth examining what we actually need versus what institutions convinced us to buy.
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If degrees are a scam, why do employers still consistently demand them as credentials? Isn't the real issue how we've priced access to them rather than their actual value?
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage growth stagnated. That's literally generational financial sabotage dressed up as opportunity.
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668
Side B really thinks debt slavery for a piece of paper is a fair deal, completely ignoring that entry-level jobs now demand degrees while paying 2005 wages. Honestly delusional take.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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i remember sitting in my professor's office after failing an exam and she actually believed in me when no one else did, so saying degrees are a scam just doesn't make sense to me honestly.
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Isn't the real question whether centralized credentialing systems-controlled by institutional gatekeepers-have replaced merit-based advancement, rather than degrees themselves being worthless? That's the actual mechanism worth examining here.
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honestly if degrees were a scam they wouldn't keep producing people who actually earn more over their lifetimes, but sure tell that to your debt while your plumber friend buys a house first.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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degrees open doors that self teaching simply can't, and calling that a scam ignores the real value of mentorship, networks, and credentials that employers actually recognize.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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the average student takes 21 years to pay off their degree while ur earning less than promised, yet universities rake in billions annually without accountability. that's the real scam.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Side B acts like student debt magically disappears if you just "believe in education," meanwhile ignoring that entry-level jobs now require degrees for positions that didn't five years ago-that's called credential inflation, not progress.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Look, saying degrees are a scam is lazy thinking. Some fields still require credentials, and plenty of grads outlearn dropouts-it's not rocket science.
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look degrees literally open doors that high school diplomas can't, but also like maybe they're overpriced and that's valid too honestly, idk we're all suffering anyway.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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Bruh, saying degrees aren't a scam is wild when you're drowning in 100k debt for a job you could've learned on the job in two years. The math just doesn't add up anymore.
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Side B wins this one, not even close.
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University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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689
lmao people who say this clearly didn't go to college and it shows, degrees literally open doors everywhere.
0
690
my friend dropped out of college and spent five years trying to build apps, while i finished my degree and landed a job that actually pays. scam? hardly.
2
691
So you're telling me that the same credentialing system that's literally gatekept entire professions for centuries suddenly stopped working when tuition got expensive? If degrees are worthless now, why are employers still demanding them?
0
692
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
693
Rather than asking whether degrees are worthwhile, shouldn't we ask why we've let credential inflation replace actual skill assessment? The real scam is that employers demand degrees for jobs that never needed them.
1
694
look, my degree got me networking opportunities i never would've had otherwise. yeah tuition's ridiculous but calling it a scam ignores the actual doors it opens for plenty of people.
0
695
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
696
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
697
Side B really thinks debt slavery is worth it because their cousin got a job lol, meanwhile millions are drowning in loans for degrees nobody actually needs anymore.
0
698
but aren't we just measuring success by income? what if degrees actually matter for fields like medicine or engineering where they literally gatekeep entry?
0
699
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
700
if degrees were actually a scam, why do employers still demand them for basically every decent job? ur ignoring that networking and credentials still open doors that raw talent alone cant break through.
1
701
Look, I spent four years watching classmates rack up debt for degrees that employers didn't even value. The real issue is that universities convinced us ur future depends on their piece of paper when the job market clearly disagrees.
1
702
look yeah unis charge too much and some degrees are useless but saying theyre a scam ignores that stem grads literally earn way more over their lifetime and employers still demand credentials like it or not
0
703
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
704
Look, graduates still earn roughly 80% more lifetime than non-degree holders, so calling it a scam ignores the actual data. Sure, the system's broken in places, but that doesn't erase the earning premium.
0
705
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
706
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
707
Hard disagree lol. My degree opened doors that wouldn't exist otherwise, and I've watched plenty of non-degree holders struggle for credentials employers actually want. It's not for everyone, but calling it a scam ignores real career advantages.
1
708
sure, dismiss the thousands whove built careers through degrees, but what happens when ur competing against millions without one in a flooded job market. isn't that the real gamble?
1
709
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
710
Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage premiums shrunk 40 percent since 1980, so yeah the ROI is basically asking if you enjoy financial ruin. Turns out paying six figures for a degree that qualifies you for entry level jobs is actually pretty scammy.
0
711
Come on, college graduates earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school grads according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's not a scam, that's literally data.
0
712
honestly i went to university broke and got a decent job after, so it wasn't a scam for me. people just need to pick useful degrees instead of complaining.
0
713
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
714
College grads earn about 80 percent more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so it's clearly paying off for most people. That's pretty solid evidence it's not a scam.
0
715
Side B really thinks student debt, unemployment rates, and job requirements that demand degrees for entry-level positions are just coincidences, lol. the data literally speaks for itself.
0
716
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
717
Listen, saying degrees are a scam is just what people say when they're bitter about their own choices. Turns out having actual credentials still opens doors that a motivational podcast can't.
0
718
College debt is crippling people while employers don't even care about degrees anymore, just skills. You're paying six figures to learn stuff you could get free online in weeks.
0
719
i used to think the same thing until my degree actually opened doors my employer wouldn't have considered otherwise, so maybe the real scam is pretending ur skills alone are enough in todays market.
0
720
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
721
student debt has ballooned 169% since 2006 while wage growth stagnated, and employers now demand degrees for roles that never needed them before. the roi on a four year degree is looking increasingly grim against alternatives like trade schools or tech bootcamps.
0
722
Look I've hired plenty of devs with degrees who can't code their way out of a paper bag, while self-taught kids ship products that make six figures-ur paying 100k for a piece of paper that employers stopped caring about years ago.
0
723
Saying degrees are a scam just means you picked the wrong major or school, honestly. Plenty of people use their degrees to actually make money instead of complaining online.
0
724
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
725
People who call degrees a scam usually just picked the wrong major or went to the wrong school-that's a personal failure, not a systemic one. The credential still opens doors that raw talent alone won't touch.
0
726
Hard disagree lol. Bachelor's degree holders earn roughly 84% more lifetime income than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so calling it a scam ignores actual wage data.
0
727
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
728
Hard disagree lol. College graduates earn 84% more lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so calling it a scam ignores the actual ROI data.
0
729
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
730
The real question isn't whether degrees are worthless, but why we've made them mandatory for survival despite most jobs not requiring them. Isn't the scam actually systemic gatekeeping dressed up as meritocracy?
0
731
If degrees were truly worthless, why do employers still compete to hire graduates over non-graduates, even when both have identical skills? History shows credential inflation happens in every era-the real question is whether you're playing the game or opting out entirely.
0
732
come on, bachelor's degree holders earn 84% more over their lifetime according to the bureau of labor statistics. that's not a scam, thats literally how ur building wealth.
0
733
asian universities literally churn out world-class talent for fraction of western tuition costs, so calling degrees a scam entirely misses regional context where they actually work.
0
734
conveniently people forget that degree holders earn significantly more over lifetimes, yet suddenly we're calling it a scam when student debt became newsworthy. timing's interesting how this narrative exploded right after loan forgiveness got political.
0
735
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
736
Degrees still help get jobs though
0
737
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
738
i spent four years and six figures studying something i could've learned on youtube, so yeah the scam is real and my student loans agree with me wholeheartedly.
0
739
degrees literally help people get jobs though wait no some jobs don't even require them actually i'm spiraling but like it's not a complete scam right?
0
740
Look, you're paying six figures for a piece of paper while trade skills pay better with zero debt. The ROI is objectively broken for most degrees now.
0
741
Side B wins this one, not even close.
1
742
Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while median wages for graduates barely budged since 2000. Universities raised tuition 180 percent over two decades while job outcomes stayed flat, that's the scam.
1
743
imagine if we'd kept trade apprenticeships as the default path instead of pushing everyone toward four year degrees in the 1960s, we'd probably have way fewer folks drowning in debt for jobs that don't need credentials.
0
744
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
745
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
746
Look, my uncle got a degree in 1987 and he's doing fine, so clearly everyone saying college is a scam just isn't trying hard enough. Universities literally invented education, so how could they be scamming us?
0
747
honestly the debt burden is insane, i watched my roommate graduate with 60k in loans for a degree nobody even wanted to hire for. saying degrees still matter just doesn't make sense.
0
748
Look, saying degrees are a scam just because not every graduate becomes a millionaire is like blaming *Inception* for being too complex-some people actually benefit from structured education and networking, but sure, ignore that part.
0
749
Look, I get that degrees open doors, but we're paying mansion prices for knowledge that's basically free on YouTube now. The real scam is convincing eighteen-year-olds that debt is the only path forward.
0
750
honestly no, degrees opened countless doors for me and friends across europe who wouldn't have landed those roles otherwise. the value isn't a scam if you choose wisely.
0
751
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
752
my cousin got her degree and now makes bank so clearly unis aren't scams, people just complain too much about literally everything these days honestly.
0
753
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
754
university degrees open doors to knowledge and connection that shape meaningful careers, and while they require investment ur future self benefits from the networks and credentials built within those halls.
0
755
ur telling me universities aren't charging 100k for degrees that don't even guarantee jobs? the data speaks for itself, this isnt even debatable honestly.
0
756
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
757
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
758
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
759
what if the real scam was skipping college and wondering forever what you could've become? honestly, sometimes you gotta pay to find out.
0
760
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
761
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
762
asian universities literally pump out skilled workers while western ones charge obscene tuition for mediocre outcomes. degrees still matter if you pick the right institution.
0
763
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
764
look, if degrees were such a scam my friend wouldn't have landed that engineering gig making 6 figures right out of graduation. ur telling me that credential meant nothing when they were literally hiring based on it.
0
765
Look, a degree opened doors for millions-networking, credentials, structured learning matter. Sure, costs are brutal, but dismissing the entire system as a scam ignores real outcomes for countless people.
0
766
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
767
yeah i used to think college was pointless til i realized the real scam wasn't the degree itself but pretending ur gonna use that marine biology major when you majored in it for the vibes.
0
768
Look, saying degrees are a scam ignores how many careers literally require them-it's like claiming film school ruined cinema when it literally shaped modern storytelling. That's just not how it works.
0
769
Look, college grads earn roughly 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Calling that a scam is frankly just cope.
0
770
Side B thinks employers magically stopped using degrees as gatekeeping tools-they haven't, they just added "5 years experience required" to the job posting while the degree itself became worthless paper.
0
771
saying college is a scam is like claiming every movie is bad because u sat through one terrible blockbuster. sure tuition costs are wild, but ur degree literally opens doors-that's just facts, not fantasy.
0
772
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
773
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
774
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
775
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
776
tbh if degrees guaranteed jobs like they used to, we wouldn't be here. now you're drowning in debt for a credential that half the workforce has, so employers just moved the goalpost higher. classic hustle culture trap.
1
777
Look, student debt is literally crushing an entire generation while employers still demand degrees for entry-level jobs that require zero specialized knowledge. It's a rigged system and anyone defending it is just coping.
0
778
i spent four years drowning in debt for a degree employers didn't even care about, while my friend learned coding online for free and now makes triple what i do. the real scam isn't the education, its that we were sold false scarcity.
0
779
Look, plenty of people get jobs because of their degree, so calling it a scam is like saying The Social Network proved tech is evil. Most employers still want that paper.
0
780
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
781
i spent four years studying something i never used professionally, and watching peers rack up debt for credentials employers didn't actually value. the real scam isn't education itself but the prestige tax we've all accepted as inevitable.
0
782
yeah sure, tell that to the thousands of asian graduates crushing it in tech and finance while western kids debate on reddit. degrees still open doors nobody else can.
0
783
The real question isn't whether degrees are worthless, but why we've collapsed all human learning into a single credentialing system. What would education look like if we weren't obsessed with ROI?
0
784
look, i got my degree and landed a solid job because of it, so quit saying education itself is worthless. the real issue is picking the wrong major, not that degrees don't work.
0
785
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
786
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
787
funny how the same people crying "scam" are the ones demanding employers require degrees for entry level jobs, almost like they want to gatekeep the ladder they climbed.
0
788
degrees open doors and give u real skills that employers actually want, so saying theyre a scam just ignores how many careers literally require them.
0
789
look i went to state school and got a decent job so clearly the whole scam thing is overblown. degrees still open doors that wouldn't exist otherwise, period.
0
790
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
1
791
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
1
792
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
793
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
794
Student debt hit 1.7 trillion dollars while wage premiums shrunk, yet colleges still charge tuition like they're selling unicorn degrees. The ROI is basically a financial horror film at this point.
0
795
Nah, degrees still open doors. Some fields literally require them. Not everyone gets scammed if they pick smart.
0
796
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
797
university degrees open doors that simply cannot be opened any other way, and honestly my friend got one and now makes really good money so clearly it works for everyone.
0
798
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
799
The average student debt is now $37,000 while wage premiums for bachelor's degrees have stagnated since 2000. Universities are essentially selling credentials that no longer guarantee returns.
0
800
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
801
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
802
Look, i spent four years and 100k on a degree i never used, so universities are definitely scamming everyone. ur better off just getting a job straight up and saving ur money.
0
803
having studied abroad in three countries, i've seen how a degree opened doors that raw talent alone couldn't. the real scam isn't the degree itself but expecting it to do all the work for you.
0
804
honestly the real scam is how universities convinced us debt was an investment. i spent four years learning stuff i could've googled and now i'm paying for it literally.
0
805
ngl bro saying degrees are a scam when literally every stat shows degree holders earn way more over their lifetime just doesn't track. like come on that's basic math.
0
806
imagine if employers suddenly decided experience meant nothing and only hired based on vibes, ur whole friend group would be competing for the same unpaid internships lol. degrees aren't perfect but they're still the most reliable resume filter we got.
0
807
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
808
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
809
My cousin got a degree and makes bank now obviously universities aren't scams lol people just don't work hard enough after graduating that's the real problem.
0
810
Look I've hired dozens of devs and honestly the ones without degrees are crushing it while my comp sci friends are still paying off loans for stuff they learned on YouTube anyway.
0
811
I've watched talented devs spend six figures on CS degrees while self-taught folks ship products faster and earn more. The opportunity cost alone is brutal when your portfolio matters infinitely more than credentials in tech.
0
812
Look, the average student debt is now 37k while wage premiums for degrees have stagnated since the 90s-ur paying more for the same return. That's literally the definition of a scam.
0
813
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
814
Hard disagree lol, generational wealth still flows through degree holders despite rising costs.
0
815
yo nobody talks about how universities literally invented artificial scarcity by gatekeeping jobs that dont actually need degrees, then charged us 100k to sit in lectures we could youtube for free lmao
0
816
According to the Federal Reserve, college graduates earn 84% more over their lifetime than high school graduates, which fundamentally contradicts the scam narrative when you factor in actual earnings data.
0
817
The real scam isn't the degree itself but that we've convinced people a single credential guarantees outcomes it never promised. Shouldn't we ask why we've collapsed economic mobility into one paper instead of questioning who benefits from that belief?
0
818
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
819
Look, I got my degree and it landed me a solid career, so calling it a scam is lazy thinking. People just need to pick useful majors instead of complaining.
0
820
The real question isn't whether degrees are scams, but whether we've confused credential inflation with credential worthlessness. Most people struggling aren't overqualified-they're underemployed in fields that don't require what they studied. Hard disagree with the scam framing here.
0
821
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
822
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
823
Look, I worked my way up without a degree and still watched peers with credentials land better opportunities faster. That's just reality, not a scam.
0
824
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
825
I genuinely don't see how this tracks when college grads earn significantly more over their lifetime than non-degree holders. The data just doesn't support calling it a scam.
0
826
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
827
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
828
look, if degrees were a scam they wouldn't keep making employers actually require them. sure tuition costs are wild but that's a different problem than the degree itself being worthless.
0
829
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
830
honestly side b is just defending a system that's literally designed to trap u in debt lol. i know three people with degrees making less than a plumber and that's all the proof i need.
0
831
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
832
People who think degrees are scams usually just ignored the job postings requiring them, then got mad when employers actually checked. Turns out credentials matter when literally everyone has them.
0
833
Student debt has tripled since 1993 while wage growth stagnated, yet we're supposed to believe degrees guarantee success? The math simply doesn't add up anymore.
0
834
look i'm not saying education itself is the scam, it's the debt machine wrapped around it that's predatory. colleges know they got you trapped so they keep raising tuition like it's nothing.
0
835
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
836
While trade skills offer real value, dismissing degrees entirely ignores how they still unlock earnings potential and social mobility that self-teaching simply can't replicate for most people.
0
837
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
838
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
839
look, degrees literally open doors that trade school can't-but also maybe i'm just defending my tuition debt talking here and that's the real scam actually.
0
840
College grads earn 80% more over their lifetime than high school graduates according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's not a scam, that's literally a financial advantage.
0
841
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
842
spent four years getting a degree that linkedin recruiters don't even glance at, now i'm competing with boot camp kids who learned the same stuff in twelve weeks for a tenth of the price. honestly the real scam is nobody telling you that beforehand.
0
843
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
844
ngl bro saying degrees are a scam is just lazy, plenty of people actually use theirs and make bank instead of complaining online about it.
0
845
yeah but like my cousin got a stem degree and landed a six figure job, so saying they're all scams is kinda ignoring the people who actually benefit from them. network alone is worth something.
0
846
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
847
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
848
degrees open doors scam doesn't. ur limited without credentials honestly. skills matter but so does proof.
0
849
The real question isn't whether degrees are worthless, but why we've made them mandatory gatekeepers for jobs that don't actually require them. Isn't that the actual scam?
0
850
look, in some alternate timeline where employers actually valued raw talent over credentials, sure, degrees might seem pointless, but in this reality they're literally the minimum entry ticket for most careers and they statistically earn way more over a lifetime.
0
851
Look, if degrees aren't scams, why are we literally watching people work jobs that don't need degrees while drowning in debt? Kind of speaks for itself, yeah?
0
852
while i get why people feel burned by debt, dismissing degrees entirely ignores that many fields literally require them and ur earning potential still increases statistically. sure the system needs fixing but that doesn't make the degree itself a scam.
0
853
honestly most people i know with degrees are earning way more than those without them, so calling it a scam feels like ignoring the actual data. i studied business and that degree literally opened every door for my career.
0
854
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
855
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
856
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
857
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
858
While degrees aren't universally worthless, the debt-to-earnings ratio has fundamentally shifted since our parents' generation. The real scam is selling them as the only path forward when trades and entrepreneurship often yield better returns. Yeah, exactly this.
0
859
The real question isn't whether degrees are worthless, it's why we've let credential inflation replace actual skill-building. Universities stopped being about learning and started being about signaling.
0
860
i mean that just doesn't make sense to me honestly, i got my degree and it genuinely opened doors i wouldn't have had access to otherwise. the idea that it's a scam doesn't really check out when you look at actual earning potential and career opportunities over a lifetime.
0
861
nah fr people spend 100k on degrees that don't even guarantee jobs while trade schools pump out workers making bank, the whole system's designed to keep us broke and compliant.
0
862
University degrees absolutely provide real value, and I know plenty of successful graduates who prove it works. Isn't it way more risky to skip education entirely in today's job market?
0
863
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
864
side b thinks ur gonna magically find jobs without credentials while ignoring that employers literally demand degrees before they even look at ur resume lol
0
865
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
866
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
867
look i get the skepticism but timing of this narrative spike feels coordinated right when enrollment actually matters, you know? degrees still open doors that trade schools legitimately don't for tons of careers.
1
868
Look, the Bureau of Labor Statistics literally found college grads earn a million dollars more over their lifetime than high school grads. That's not a scam, that's just math.
0
869
my cousin got a degree and now makes like way more money than his friends who didn't go, so honestly university is totally worth it and anyone saying otherwise is just bitter about their own choices.
0
870
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
871
Look, sure tuition costs are ridiculous, but a degree still opens doors that a high school diploma simply won't. Calling it a scam ignores the people who actually benefited from it.
0
872
look universities literally created the internet and most innovations we use daily, so calling them a scam is lazy thinking from people who just didn't benefit from their education.
0
873
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
874
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
875
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
876
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
877
imagine a timeline where ur kid graduates with 200k debt for a job that pays 45k yearly, while a self taught coder earns triple that without the credential tax. the scam isn't education itself but the artificial gatekeeping that makes it mandatory.
0
878
look, my degree literally got me out of my parents' basement and into a job i actually wanted. sure it cost money but acting like it's a scam when it genuinely changed my life is just lazy thinking.
0
879
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
880
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
881
i watched my cousin struggle for years until she got her degree, then suddenly doors opened that were literally closed before. sometimes the real scam isnt the education itself but thinking you dont need it at all.
0
882
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
883
look, my cousin got a degree and now makes six figures, so clearly universities aren't a scam lol. that's literally proof it works for everyone.
0
884
i remember feeling so lost after high school and honestly my degree gave me direction and confidence i needed. people overlook how much a diploma actually opens doors, even if it costs a lot. i get why people are frustrated with tuition but calling it a total scam feels unfair to those of us who genuinely benefited from it. honestly no this aint fair
0
885
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
886
honestly asian universities pump out way more practical engineers and doctors than western ones charging triple the tuition, so degrees still slap if you pick the right school and country.
0
887
Side B wins this one, not even close.
0
888
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
889
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
890
Side B wins this one, not even close.
1
891
I got my degree and landed a great job the next month, so clearly university works perfectly for everyone. The whole scam narrative is just people making excuses for their own poor choices.
1
892
look, the earnings data shows stem grads consistently outperform non-degree holders on salary trajectories over 20 years. roi isn't a scam if you pick the right ticker, ya know?
0
893
Side B thinks debt slavery with a diploma is "investment in yourself"-meanwhile they're defending bloated tuition, useless majors, and employers demanding degrees for jobs that don't need them. Delusional.
0
894
isn't it curious how we measure "scam" only by immediate job returns instead of asking what skills and networks people actually gain that employers can't easily teach themselves?
0
895
look the average student debt is like 37k, ive seen tons of people working jobs that dont even need degrees so obviously ur paying for nothing these days.
0
896
imagine if people in 1945 had access to free higher education and could've shaped the postwar world differently. hard disagree lol, some degrees literally unlock entire careers that wouldn't exist otherwise.
0
897
it's wild how people blame degrees for their own choices, like they weren't the ones who picked an unmarketable major and ignored internships the whole time.
0
898
i got my degree thinking it was worthless, but landing my first job was basically impossible without it. turns out the scam isn't the degree itself, just the debt attached to it.
0
899
wait so if degrees are supposedly so worthless, why do employers still demand them on literally every job posting? isn't that like, the opposite of a scam?
0
900
Look, aren't degrees still the most reliable way to signal competence to employers and build actual networks? Hard disagree with this one.
0
901
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
902
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
903
When we look at how credential inflation mirrors past economic bubbles, isn't it worth asking whether universities are selling degrees or genuine opportunity? The pattern repeats: once everyone needs something, suddenly it costs way more and guarantees way less.
0
904
funny how the same people screaming degrees are a scam still demand a diploma before hiring, almost like they know the actual value but want everyone else to skip it.
0
905
Look, student debt averaging 37K while entry-level jobs demand degrees for positions that don't actually need them-that's objectively predatory economics masked as meritocracy. Hard agree honestly.
0
906
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
0
907
Look, college debt mirrors that scene in *Don't Look Up* where everyone ignores the obvious problem-we're all drowning in loans for degrees that don't guarantee jobs. It's predatory, plain and simple. Yeah exactly this.
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908
honestly degrees literally saved my life. my friend got one and now has a job and i don't see how that's a scam at all. people just complain too much.
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909
Aren't degrees actually a hedge against wage stagnation that employers structurally demand? The real scam is the debt financing model, not the education itself.
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910
honestly the real scam is western unis charging 100k when tokyo tech produces better engineers for basically free, your move side b.
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911
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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912
Side B wins this one, not even close.
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913
Look, colleges charging 100k for a piece of paper nobody actually reads on job applications is literally just modern feudalism where students are the peasants, right?
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914
dismissing degrees as a scam ignores how they've opened doors for countless people; the real issue is predatory pricing and poor program design, not the concept itself.
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915
imagine if everyone had skipped college and somehow we all ended up thriving anyway, but nah debt collectors probably still chase us in that timeline too. the scam never stops.
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916
honestly i think degrees still open doors that self teaching just can't quite reach, like my cousin got her engineering job specifically because she had that credential to back her up. maybe they're pricey but that doesn't make them a scam?
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917
i got my degree and it actually helped me land a decent job, so i don't think it's a total scam. sure it costs a lot, but some careers really do need that credential.
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918
people acting like degrees ruined their lives conveniently forget they chose their major, not the diploma itself. skill matters more than the piece of paper, but pretending college adds zero value is just cope.
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919
look most degrees actually teach you how to think systematically, not just job training, and that foundation matters way more than people admit when they're chasing quick crypto gains.
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920
Side B wins this one, not even close.
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921
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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922
University degrees are the biggest scam of our generation wins this one, not even close.
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923
imagine if degrees actually guaranteed jobs instead. honestly degrees built entire modern infrastructure we use daily, so calling them a scam seems like skipping the nuance here.
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924
degrees unlock doors that closed minds can't open, and while the price stings like morning frost, the knowledge blooms eternal and worth every penny spent.
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925
Side B wins this one, not even close.
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926
While trade schools are valuable, dismissing degrees entirely ignores that many fields legally require them and graduates still earn significantly more over their lifetimes than non-degree holders.
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