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Build quality justifies price point.
AirPods Pro. ecosystem locks you in.
Look, I spent a decade buying cheap phones that died in two years; my iPhone 12 still runs like day one.
nobody wants to say it but people who complain about airpods being expensive are the same ones dropping 300 bucks on a gaming headset that makes them look like they're about to pilot a fighter jet lmaooo like bro just pick a lane
Apple nails ecosystem design because everything just works together seamlesslyโcompetitors charge extra for features Apple bakes in. As a game dev, I can tell you unified hardware/software optimization actually costs more to build than fragmented approaches.
imagine actually believing an iphone 16 pro costs what it does because of innovation when the base model still charges you 200 dollars more for 8gb of ram that android phones gave you in 2019. tim cook could sell you an empty box with an apple logo and you'd
iPhone 12s just last way longer than Samsung Galaxies from the same yearโway better resale value too, which actually matters.
MacBooks aren't overpriced if you keep them 7 years while your friend buys two cheap Windows laptops. It's about total cost of ownership, not just the sticker price.
there was this moment holding my iphone 15 pro max when everything
the way everyone is calling them overpriced while literally upgrading their iphone every two years and keeping their macbooks for a decade is actually insane.
im going with the airpods pro are actually worth it because the spatial audio is genuinely useful but also like someone just told me you can get sony earbuds for half the price and now im questioning my entire existence and financial choices.
ok but like... source on this actually working tho? every age verification system ive seen gets bypassed in like 5 minutes, so idk why anyone thinks this one will be different lol
it's pretty convenient that this "overpriced" narrative picked up steam right when samsung and google started their major marketing pushes, almost like we're seeing coordinated talking points. apple's resale value and longevity actually make the cost per year comparable to cheaper phones that need replacing constantly
i've owned three different flagship phones over the years and apple's markup on components versus what they charge is genuinely laughable compared to what samsung offers for half the price. when i was backpacking through southeast asia last year, i saw the same manufacturing quality in way cheaper devices that did everything my iphone could do.
aapl's trading at 32x earnings while the broader market sits at 18x, that's just absurd and everyone knows it. the stock's run too far too fast.
honestly side b keeps flip flopping on weather the tech justifies the price, but we all know ur paying for the logo more than the innovation these days.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
nah ur telling me apple dropped those prices right after everyone complained online and now suddenly theyre "overpriced" again? coincidence i think not lol
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Look, I've owned Apple products for over a decade and they've outlasted every cheaper alternative I've tried. You're paying for longevity and support, not just a logo.
lol apple's pricing is actually justified when you compare build quality to chinese competitors who cut corners, but sure keep pretending samsung and xiaomi are better deals.
funny how people complain about price right after apple drops a new feature everyone suddenly needs, almost like the timing of these "overpriced" takes coincides with competitor sales cycles.
Apple's average price premium is only 15-20% over competitors with similar specs according to Consumer Reports 2023 data. That's hardly "you know it" territory when you're paying for actual resale value and ecosystem integration.
Sure, Apple costs more upfront, but their resale value and longevity mean you're actually getting solid bang for your buck if you keep them past year two. Plus, free repairs for accidental damage? That's worth something!
Apple's pricing actually reflects resale value and ecosystem lock-in that competitors can't replicate, making the premium more defensible than people admit. You're paying for longevity, not just components.
apple's ecosystem delivers premium build quality that rivals nothing from asia at the same price point, so calling it overpriced ignores what you're actually getting for your money.
funny how every "overpriced" criticism hits right after a new competitor launches their own expensive flagship. ever notice that timing or is it just me?
Look, iPhones cost like $1000 minimum while Android phones do literally the same thing for half the price. That's just objectively overpriced and everyone knows it.
Isn't it funny how people complain about Apple prices but keep buying them anyway? That's literally just how premium brands work, so maybe the market disagrees with you.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
honestly what kills me is how apple convinced us that paying premium prices for incremental upgrades is somehow aspirational, like we're not just buying the same phone with a slightly better camera every year.
yeah like paying $1200 for a phone when you can get the same specs elsewhere for half that is literally wild, apple's counting on brand loyalty not actual value.
People say Apple is overpriced but conveniently ignore that Samsung and Google charge the same for identical specs. You're just mad you can't afford the ecosystem tax, not that the price is actually unreasonable.
apple literally charges you triple for the same specs you get in seoul for half the price, it's actually insane how people keep paying for the brand name lol
Look, I bought a MacBook seven years ago and it still runs perfectly, so clearly Apple products are worth every penny. Everyone complaining about price just wants premium quality for budget money, which isn't how the world works.
okay so apple products actually hold their value way better than competitors which makes the cost more justified, but like... maybe i'm just trying to convince myself since i spent rent money on airpods.
Look, you're comparing sticker price to actual resale value and longevity-Apple devices hold worth longer than competitors, so the math actually works out. Stop cherry-picking the MSRP and do the full lifecycle cost analysis.
Apple's pricing strategy is like *Inception*-layers upon layers of markup that make your wallet question reality. You're essentially paying for the logo, not the specs.
Yeah that makes zero sense when studies show Apple devices retain 80% of their value after three years, way outpacing competitors. You're ignoring resale value entirely.
okay but like apple products actually hold their resale value better than competitors so you're technically losing less money over time, wait no that still means you paid too much upfront doesn't it?
Look, I paid six hundred dollars for an iPhone charger cable that frayed in three months. Apple's markup on components versus retail price is absolutely indefensible, and they know consumers will pay it anyway.
Look, an iPhone costs more than most laptops but does less-that's literally the definition of overpriced, even if it feels nice in your hand.
Look, Apple charges triple for the same specs you'll find elsewhere, and their ecosystem lock-in is basically forcing people's hands. Anyone claiming their products justify the markup is either in denial or has money to burn.
Yeah, disagree here. Been shipping on both ecosystems for years and Apple's ecosystem integration actually saves dev time and maintenance costs that justify the pricing premium for serious professionals.
Look, comparing raw specs to budget phones misses the resale value entirely-Apple devices hold seventy percent of their value after three years, which most Android flagships don't touch. That's literally the opposite of overpriced.
claiming apple's overpriced makes no sense when you compare build quality and resale value to competitors. i've owned three iphones across a decade and they outperform cheaper android phones every single time.
i remember saving for months to buy that macbook, and honestly it hurt watching the price tag when i could've gotten something just as good for half the cost. it's real that apple charges a premium we don't always need to pay.
Apple's iPhone costs $999 while Samsung offers comparable specs at $699-that's a 43 percent premium for the same performance. The markup exists purely for branding, not innovation.
look anyone defending apple's pricing is just coping at this point, paying double for the same specs because of a fruit logo is wild and we all know it deep down.
honestly i just think ur paying for quality and it lasts longer so its not really overpriced when u think about it that way, like my iphone has lasted me years.
notice how apple releases a minor update every year right when older models start failing, then charges premium prices while claiming innovation. convenient timing if you ask me.
Look, Apple's pricing reflects actual engineering and ecosystem value-you're paying for quality hardware and software integration that competitors genuinely can't match at those price points.
yeah i paid 1200 bucks for a macbook and could've gotten the same thing from dell for half that, apple just slaps their logo on it and charges whatever they want.
You're right that Apple's products command premium pricing, and research from Consumer Intelligence Research Partners shows their average selling price consistently sits 20-30% higher than competitor equivalents with similar specs. The brand loyalty premium is absolutely real and worth calling out.
apple charges 1200 dollars for a phone and everyone just accepts it like we're not all broke and anxious about it, which honestly i respect the audacity even though i'm definitely buying one anyway.
in an alternate timeline where apple actually undercut samsung's prices, we'd probably see way less innovation overall since competition drives them both forward, so maybe paying premium keeps everyone sharp.
Tell me you've never actually compared the resale value and longevity costs to other flagships without telling me. The math just doesn't check out for the overpriced argument once you factor in what these things are actually worth after three years.
Look, anyone defending Apple's pricing hasn't watched their keynote speeches where they charge $1,200 for what amounts to a slightly faster phone-it's literally the "luxury tax" montage from *Succession* but make it tech.
The real question isn't whether Apple costs more, but why millions rationally choose it despite knowing cheaper alternatives exist. What are we actually paying for beyond the hardware itself?
honestly my macbook lasted like eight years so clearly apple products are built to last, and everyone knows longevity means you're not paying more you're paying smarter.
look apple literally charges you 200 bucks for a charger cable and people act like thats normal somehow, side b really out here defending a company that makes you pay for air basically
Hard disagree lol. You're conflating brand premium with actual overpricing when their margins reflect genuine R&D and ecosystem value. Why does luxury pricing automatically equal overpriced?
honestly people act like apple's expensive but i've kept the same iphone for five years and it still works perfectly. that's worth something, yeah?
Saying Apple is overpriced ignores that they consistently hold resale value better than competitors, making the total cost of ownership actually competitive over time.
honestly who even cares anymore, theyre all overpriced and ur gonna buy it anyway
honestly if apple stuff lasted like 5 years instead of 10 then yeah overpriced but they literally just work forever which is wild when you think about it
Apple's premium reflects genuine engineering and longevity that cheaper alternatives simply don't match, even if the markup stings initially. You're paying for ecosystem integration and resale value, not just a logo.
People just hate paying for quality, Apple's ecosystem actually saves you money long term if you do the math, but yeah sure keep buying those knockoffs that die in two years.
yeah apple charges way too much for phones that do basically the same thing every year, ur paying for the brand name honestly. isn't it kinda crazy how they get away with it?
honestly, in some alternate timeline where samsung actually innovated instead of copying, apple still charges double what they should. people just accept it because of the brand logo, and that's the real joke here.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Come on, how can you argue Apple's premium pricing isn't justified when their ecosystem lock-in strategy basically functions like monetary policy controlling consumer behavior? It's economics 101.
paid 1200 for a macbook in tokyo and the same model costs way less literally everywhere else. apple just charges more because people let them and honestly it's ridiculous.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
yeah apple's charging premium prices for stuff that's honestly not that revolutionary anymore, their ecosystem lock-in is the real play here.
People act like specs are everything, but Apple's ecosystem integration and resale value objectively justify the premium-it's not just the hardware, it's the whole package working seamlessly.
yeah apple's definitely overpriced but also like maybe the ecosystem justifies it? no wait i'm spiraling, it totally doesn't, we're paying for the logo here.
people forget apple's ecosystem lock-in actually justifies premium pricing when you factor in seamless integration costs competitors can't match.
tried both ecosystems for years, apple's actually solid if you keep devices longer than two years. stop comparing sticker price to garbage android phones that die in 18 months.
yo apple really said "we're charging $1200 for a phone" and everyone just accepted it like it's normal lol. side b really thinks paying $40 for a charging cable makes sense, absolutely delusional.
Apple's iPhone retains 80% of its resale value after one year compared to Android's 40-50%, making the total cost of ownership actually competitive when you factor in longevity and depreciation.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
apple's just a glorified brand tax wrapped in aluminum, same centralized walled garden nonsense that keeps people locked in and overcharged. wake up.
look i bought a macbook once and it cost way more than my dell but both broke eventually so apple's definitely overpriced and that settles it.
yeah their phones cost too much for what u get, like everyone knows this already but we buy them anyway lol.
Apple's resale value retention averages 80 percent after three years, significantly outpacing Android competitors at 40 percent, so claiming they're overpriced ignores total cost of ownership. That's just facts.
I totally get why people defend Apple's quality but the price markup is just undeniable, ur paying for the brand as much as the actual tech. Other companies offer similar specs at half the cost.
Look, I've owned the same MacBook for seven years without a single problem, so clearly you're just not getting the value proposition here. Apple's quality speaks for itself.
nah apple's actually cheaper when u stop comparing it to garbage tier phones that break in 6 months, but go off i guess
apple's got ur wallet weeping like a willow in a rainstorm, and paying double for the same specs elsewhere is poetry written in pure markup magic.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Of course Apple's overpriced, their ecosystem lock-in is basically a currency peg enforced by brand worship. Have you actually compared specs to the competition?
honestly yeah, apple's markup is absurd compared to comparable specs elsewhere. paid 1200 euros for a macbook in berlin when i could've gotten similar performance for 700 elsewhere in europe.
Apple's repair costs run 40-60% higher than competitors for identical component replacements, according to iFixit teardowns. That's not innovation pricing, that's just margin extraction.
yeah exactly this, like i remember trying to justify dropping $1200 on a phone to myself at 2am and just couldn't make the math work you know, the specs don't match the price tag fr fr
apple's pricing isnt unreasonable when ur actually comparing specs and build quality to competitors, but yeah the brand tax is real and fanboys will defend anything tim cook charges them for.
Look, I paid $1200 for a MacBook that does what a $400 Windows laptop does just fine. Anyone saying Apple's pricing is justified is just not being honest with themselves about what ur actually getting for that money.
nah tried both and apple stuff actually lasts longer so maybe you're just broke. my iphone survived a washing machine, my buddy's android didn't.
Look, paying $1200 for a phone that does what a $300 Android does is basically paying for the Apple logo and some really good marketing. Sure, they're quality devices, but let's not pretend we're not subsidizing their entire aesthetic empire.
nah this take makes zero sense lol like people literally choose to buy apple stuff every single day so clearly theyre getting something for it??? you cant just say overpriced when millions disagree
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
looked at repair costs on both ecosystems and apple's actually cheaper long term since their stuff doesn't brick after two years like android flagships do.
I mean, come on-Apple consistently ranks top for resale value and customer retention, which literally proves people think they're worth the price tag. That's not overpricing, that's market validation.
Honestly no, I've built with both ecosystems and Apple's ecosystem integration just works way better for my workflow which saves me time daily. The price reflects actual value I'm getting.
aapl's services segment is printing 25 percent margins while the whole market's getting squeezed, so yeah tell me again how that's overpriced when competitors can't even touch that moat.
lol have you seen samsung and sony prices? apple's actually reasonable compared to premium asia tech, but sure keep pretending a thousand dollar phone is somehow unique to them.
honestly yeah, apple charges premium prices but you're paying for reliability and ecosystem integration that actually works seamlessly. i learned this traveling europe when my iphone just worked everywhere while others troubleshot constantly.
honestly apple charges like $1200 for a phone and calls it innovation, which is insane... but also maybe their stuff just works better? i don't know, i'm spiraling, you're probably right though.
yeah apple charges a lot for their stuff
funny how the "overpriced" narrative peaks right when competitors release their own flagship models at identical price points, almost like people need a villain to justify their purchasing anxiety.
What if "overpriced" just means you value different things than Apple's customers do? Maybe the real question is whether price reflects quality for your specific needs, not whether one company is objectively expensive. Honestly, pricing is subjective here.
ur paying for the ecosystem lock-in theater, not the actual hardware-Apple's margins exist because switching costs ur sanity, not because the chip is magic.
People act like Apple's overpriced until they compare actual specs and longevity to competitors, then suddenly the math doesn't check out the way you thought it did.
people don't realize apple's real markup isn't just the hardware, it's the artificial scarcity they create around repairs and parts that keeps you locked in their ecosystem forever. that's the actual tax you're paying.
Apple charges double what Samsung does for basically the same phone, it's obvious they're just exploiting brand loyalty. I bought a MacBook once and paid 800 dollars more than a Dell for no real difference.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
look, apple charges premium prices because people keep paying them, and honestly their build quality justifies some of it but not the markup on storage upgrades. i switched to an android tablet last year and got identical specs for half the price.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
According to Consumer Reports 2023, Apple devices have a 90% customer satisfaction rate versus 78% for competitors, suggesting people genuinely value what they're paying for. That's not overpriced, that's just popular.
apple's walled garden extracts rent from users who could own their value on decentralized networks instead, but most prefer convenience over freedom and that's the real tax.
apple charges like 3x what ur actually getting, my friend paid $1200 for a phone and it scratches if u look at it wrong. they're literally just banking on the brand name at this point.
People really do pay for the Apple logo like it's a personality trait, and I can't stop thinking about that.
yeah honestly it's wild how apple charges 1200 bucks for a phone when my friend's android does basically the same stuff for half the price, pretty convenient timing that they release new ones every year right when everyone's battery dies.
funny how apple prices jump right before the new iphone drops every single year, almost like they're clearing inventory on purpose. you really think that's just coincidence?
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
When have consumers ever accepted premium pricing for brand prestige over actual specs? Apple's marketing playbook is historically identical to luxury goods that charge triple for marginal improvements.
honestly apple's pricing is insane until you realize i'd sell a kidney for their new macbook, which proves their marketing is basically evil genius at this point.
Look, I've built stuff on both ecosystems and yeah, you're paying way more for the Apple logo than the actual hardware specs justify. The ecosystem lock-in is real but it costs you extra for what competitors offer cheaper.
Look, a thousand dollar phone that does the same stuff as a 300 dollar one is peak marketing genius disguised as innovation. Side B really thinks the apple logo adds actual processing power lol.
look i get it but ive had the same macbook for like six years and it still runs circles around my friends budget laptops, sometimes u pay for stuff that actually lasts ya know?
look i spent three years with a broken samsung before switching to apple and honestly the reliability saved me thousands in replacements. you're just not accounting for the actual value.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
i watched my friend drop their airpods and they cost more than my entire first laptop, which honestly felt like a personal attack on my wallet. apple really said "pay premium prices for premium vibes" and we all just... agreed to it.
honestly apple products just hold their value so well that ur actually saving money long term. i've had my iphone for like 4 years and it still works perfectly, so they're totally worth it.
yeah the premium you pay for that apple logo is absolutely wild when you can get the same specs elsewhere for way less money, it's just facts.
Apple's pricing reflects the Fed's monetary expansion inflating asset valuations across the board. How can u even argue their margins aren't completely disconnected from actual innovation costs?
funny how apple drops a new phone every year and suddenly last year's model costs way less, almost like they're artificially inflating prices to create urgency.
look, i saw someone pay 1200 dollars for an iphone last week and literally could've gotten basically the same thing for half that price. apple charges whatever they want cuz people are obsessed with the logo, its that simple honestly.
Apple's resale value remains 60% higher than Android competitors after three years, so clearly people think they're worth it. That's not overpriced, that's market confidence.
honestly apple charges like 40% more for the same specs and people just pay it because of the logo, idk if that makes sense but it's literally just marketing at this point wait actually my phone broke today and i almost bought their thing out of desperation anyway yeah overpriced for sure
ngl bro people sleep on build quality and ecosystem integration, apple's actually competitive when you factor in longevity and resale value against other premium brands.
funny how people complain about apple prices right after buying the latest iphone, almost like they know what they're paying for but won't admit the quality justifies it.
nah apple's actually affordable when you compare resale value to those chinese knockoffs falling apart in three months, facts.
look apple charges 1200 bucks for a phone that does the same stuff as a 400 dollar android, ive seen it happen a thousand times. ur literally paying for the logo and thats just facts.
pricing reflects engineering quality honestly. in an alternate timeline where competitors matched apple's build standards, costs would converge upward anyway.
Yeah, people act shocked by Apple prices but gladly pay them anyway-that's literally the definition of not actually being overpriced. You're just mad you can't afford the premium.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
look, apple's got u paying for the ecosystem trap not the actual tech-ur locked in so they know they can charge whatever. side b really thinks brand loyalty isn't a pricing strategy lol
When has planned obsolescence ever made products cheaper for consumers? Apple's pricing strategy mirrors luxury brands throughout history, yet we're somehow shocked when exclusivity costs more.
Apple's pricing is pure psychological manipulation wrapped in minimalist design. Side B thinks a thousand dollar phone is "innovation" when it's really just inflation with a fruity logo slapped on it.
apple's ecosystem lock-in actually justifies the premium, but sure keep buying garbage android phones that slow down in six months lol
apple charges what they want because people keep paying it, and that's textbook overpricing right there. everyone i know complains about the price but buys anyway, which proves the point entirely.
Look, nobody's forcing you to buy an iPhone if you think it's overpriced, so clearly enough people find the value worth it. Isn't the real question why you care what others spend their money on?
i watched my friend drop 1200 on an iphone when her old one worked fine, and apple knew exactly what they were doing with that price tag. they're betting on brand loyalty, not actual value. yeah no this tracks
bro i remember dropping three hundred on an iphone charger cable and realizing apple literally just sells you the same brick in different boxes. they got us all in a chokehold fr.
Look, my cousin paid 1200 bucks for an iphone and it does the same stuff as a 300 dollar samsung, so clearly apple is just charging ur for the logo and nothing else.
yeah apple's definitely overpriced, i mean i paid eight hundred bucks for a phone that does the same stuff as my friend's android from three years ago. they're just banking on the logo at this point honestly.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple's resale value actually outpaces competitors significantly-iPhones retain about 70% of their value after two years, while Android flagships drop to 40-50%, making ur total cost of ownership comparable or lower.
apple's premium pricing is straight up unjustifiable when you look at the actual hardware specs versus competitors. they're selling lifestyle and brand loyalty, not innovation anymore.
people love saying apple's overpriced until they try switching ecosystems and realize how seamlessly their devices actually work together. i watched my friend jump ship to android and spend three months frustrated before crawling back.
yeah apple's margins are wild, you're paying for the logo honestly. what if they'd stayed budget-friendly back in 2007 though, would've crushed even harder.
Yeah Apple stuff costs way too much money compared to other phones that do basically the same thing. You're just paying for the logo honestly.
honestly apple's ecosystem integration hits different compared to what samsung charges for comparable features, western tech media just refuses to admit asian brands offer better value now.
Apple's pricing reflects their ecosystem lock-in and brand premium, which consumers willingly pay for. Isn't "overpriced" just another way of saying people value what they're buying?
you're paying for the apple logo and ecosystem lock-in, not actual hardware superiority. they've convinced people planned obsolescence is a feature, and it's honestly genius marketing.
yeah apple charges way too much for what you're getting, i bought a macbook last year and could've gotten the same specs from another brand for half the price. you're basically paying for the logo at this point.
Apple's premium pricing actually reflects genuine engineering and ecosystem integration that cheaper alternatives simply can't replicate at scale. You're paying for longevity and resale value, not just a logo.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
aapl's trading at 32x earnings with 30 percent margins and a services segment growing double digits, but sure call it overpriced lol.
in an alternate timeline where apple costs less, everyone just buys them anyway because they're actually pretty good and people were just complaining to sound smart.
ngl bro, apple's literally charging you 40% more for the same specs you'd get elsewhere and side b really out here acting like a logo justifies your entire paycheck.
my iphone lasted me seven years so clearly ur wrong and apple products are literally built different, everyone just wants to hate on them lol.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Look, my cousin paid $1200 for an iPhone and it does the same stuff as a $300 Android, so yeah Apple's literally just charging for the logo at this point and we all know it.
people love acting shocked at apple prices then camping out for the new iphone, spare me the moral high ground when your wallet already decided.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
honestly apple's pricing is justified though, their ecosystem integration and resale value make it worth it if you actually use their products.
Look at how companies have historically charged premium prices for perceived status-isn't Apple just following the playbook we've accepted for centuries? why do we suddenly act shocked when luxury branding works exactly as its designed to?
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
look, if apple stuff was actually overpriced nobody would keep buying it, so clearly people think the quality's worth the money. that's just how markets work honestly.
Apple's pricing reflects decades of central bank liquidity inflating asset valuations, not actual product superiority. ur really gonna argue their margins aren't absurd when real wages haven't moved?
apple's real tax is the ecosystem lock-in that makes ur switching costs astronomical, not the hardware itself-that's the actual overpricing nobody talks about.
yeah no, i've had the same macbook for six years and it still runs like new while my friend's cheap laptop died in two. you really think that's overpriced?
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple products just hold their value better than other brands, so the upfront cost isn't really as bad as people say. I kept my iPhone for five years and it still worked fine.
Look, I've shipped products on both Apple and Android ecosystems-you're paying for longevity and resale value, not just the logo. Their hardware depreciates slower than competitors, which actually makes the math work out over time.
look, if apple made cheaper phones nobody would care about their ecosystem lock-in strategy. the real crime is how they convince people paying more equals getting more when it's just marketing.
yeah but like people literally keep buying them so clearly theyre paying what theyre worth lol. if theyre overpriced nobody would actually get them but here we are.
honestly if apple released their phones at 1945 prices adjusted for inflation they'd still cost 8k and nobody would buy them, so clearly they're overpriced now and always will be no matter what timeline you imagine.
bought an iphone and a samsung at the same time, somehow the apple still feels emptier in my wallet three years later. planned obsolescence isn't a conspiracy when your battery dies exactly after warranty.
Apple's repair costs are brutal, sure, but their devices hold resale value better than competitors-you're not actually losing more money over time. That's the real pricing metric that matters.
apple's resale value destroys most android flagships, so calling it overpriced ignores the actual total cost of ownership that matters to people who aren't obsessed with spec sheets.
yeah apple charges crazy markup on everything, like you're basically paying for the logo at this point and everyone knows it but buys anyway lol.
Look, people confuse premium pricing with overpricing constantly. Apple's actual resale value and longevity make the math work out better than budget alternatives that need replacing every two years.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
apple's pricing subsidizes their ecosystem longevity which honestly saves money long term but wait maybe i'm just justifying my purchases out of anxiety about being duped.
Please, people act like Samsung and Google don't charge the same for literally identical specs-Apple just doesn't pretend their stuff is budget hardware.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
honestly i bought an iphone charger for 35 dollars last week and immediately felt my soul leave my body, like apple saw me coming from a mile away. they really said "you'll pay it anyway" and they were so right which makes me angrier.
apple's durability and ecosystem create genuine value that justifies the cost for those who understand long term investment. dismissing quality as mere pricing theater shows a shallow grasp of what you're actually paying for.
Apple charges 1200 bucks for a phone that does the same stuff as a 400 dollar Android, and Side B is out here defending it like they own stock in the company or something. Wake up.
yeah apple's definitely charging premium for that brand name, their specs don't justify the cost compared to competitors honestly.
Sure, Apple's premium pricing is basically the Fed's fault through currency debasement. Isn't it wild how quantitative easing makes luxury goods seem cheaper when your money's actually worth less?
funny how apple releases a new phone every september and suddenly reviewers call last year's model "outdated" right on schedule. coincidence they jack up prices the same month, i guess.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple's average iPhone markup is around 38% according to supply chain analyses, while competitors average 25%, making their pricing genuinely harder to justify. You're right to call this out.
you're just looking at price tags instead of what you're actually getting. apple's ecosystem and build quality justify the cost, period.
look ur just mad ur broke, apple products actually hold value better than most tech and last way longer so maybe stop comparing them to gas station phones
look apple products are actually worth it because theyre good quality but like maybe theyre a little expensive idk, ur probably right but also ur probably wrong too.
what if apple never built the walled garden ecosystem that made people willing to pay premium prices? their pricing power only exists because switching costs are so high once you're locked in.
People conflate premium pricing with overpricing because they've never owned an Apple product long enough to see the resale value. I kept my MacBook for seven years and sold it for half what I paid, which beats any Windows laptop I've seen.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
funny how people complaining about apple's price are using airpods while sipping overpriced lattes, suddenly quality and brand value don't matter when it's their guilty pleasure.
apple's walled garden markup is basically the luxury tax on people too lazy to own their own keys, and that's the most centralized scam in tech.
apple's quality and design justify the cost, like a rose commands attention for its perfect petals. people choose them freely because the experience feels worth every penny spent.
okay but apple's resale value and ecosystem integration literally justify the price unless you're just looking for the cheapest thing possible which like fair but also come on... wait no actually i don't even know anymore.
honestly if apple products lasted as long and worked as smooth as they do, maybe the price makes sense? like i remember my old iphone outlasting everyone's androids by years so maybe you're just not seeing the full picture.
Apple charges way more than competitors for basically the same specs, like their iPhones cost $1000+ while Samsung does nearly identical phones for $300 less. ur basically paying for the logo at that point.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Look, I bought an iPhone last year and it died after eight months, so clearly ur paying way too much for garbage that doesn't last. Apple's definitely overpriced and anyone who says otherwise is just in denial about it.
i remember spending three hundred dollars on an iphone charger that broke in two months, while my friend's android lasted years on a twenty dollar cable. you're absolutely right that apple's pricing is wild.
People saying Apple is overpriced clearly haven't compared specs to competitors or checked what you actually get for the ecosystem integration. That take is lazy.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
people really think paying for quality is a scam lol like yeah apple costs more but you're literally getting better build, longer support, and resale value that other brands cant touch but go off i guess
apple's ecosystem crafts an intricate tapestry where ur investment blooms into seamless integration and longevity that cheaper alternatives simply cannot match. the price reflects engineering excellence and ur peace of mind, not mere branding.
Maybe the real question is whether you're paying for the product or the ecosystem that makes it actually work? Hard to call it overpriced when switching costs are basically infinite.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Look, people have been saying tech is overpriced since the 90s and it never stopped anyone from buying it, so clearly the price isn't actually the problem here. Ur just not seeing the real value proposition.
yeah sure apple's expensive but yall act like paying for reliability and resale value is some crazy concept lmao people literally keep their iphones for years without them becoming garbage fires unlike some other brands
Look, resale values don't lie-iPhones retain 50% of their value after two years, which literally no Android phone touches. That's not what overpriced products do.
Look, people act shocked by Apple prices but line up anyway-that's literally the definition of overpriced. You're paying for the logo, not revolutionary tech.
okay but like aren't we just paying for the apple logo at this point? my friend spent 1200 on a macbook and it literally does the same thing as a 400 dollar one so clearly they're just overcharging us all.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
look, i've watched tourists waste thousands on apple products they could've gotten cheaper elsewhere, and the markup is genuinely indefensible for what you're actually getting.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
apple charges premium prices for marginally better specs while their loyal base defends every price hike as innovation. the numbers don't lie-you're paying for the logo, not the hardware.
but what if ur paying for the brand name instead of actual quality tho, like have u considered that maybe people just buy apple cause everyone else does and not cause its objectively better.
i watched my friend drop three hundred dollars on an iphone charger cable last month and we both just sat there in silence knowing apple had won again. that's when it hit me, they've built an ecosystem where you don't really have a choice.
but what if the real price was the friends we made while waiting in line at the apple store, broke and questioning our life choices?
Bro Apple's literally the live service game of hardware companies same predatory pricing model, zero innovation, just slap a new number on it and charge $200 more lmao
The real question is whether you're paying for the product or the ecosystem lock-in. Apple's pricing isn't irrational if you're already trapped in their services. Yeah, fair point honestly.
After spending fifteen years in tech, I've watched Apple's margins systematically outpace their innovation cycle. The ecosystem lock-in is the real product they're selling, not the hardware itself. Yeah, exactly this
you know what gets me is how apple creates this artificial scarcity that justifies the markup, like we're all just accepting the premium for the logo when comparable specs exist elsewhere for way less money.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple's iPhone 15 Pro costs $999 while Samsung's Galaxy S24 offers nearly identical specs for $799. That's a 25 percent markup for the same performance, which study after study confirms consumers are basically paying for the logo.
apple charges western tax rates for mediocre specs when asian brands deliver way better value, but sure keep paying triple for that logo.
look, if apple released the same specs at half the price nobody'd complain. they charge premium because people pay it, not because the tech justifies the markup.
Apple's average markup is around 38 percent compared to Android competitors at 25 percent, according to supply chain analysis. That's a significant premium for largely similar hardware specs.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple's trade-in values and resale market are genuinely strong, which suggests consumers perceive lasting value beyond the initial purchase price. That competitive secondary market wouldn't exist if the premium truly outpaced what buyers felt they got.
honestly apple's pricing makes zero sense when samsung and xiaomi offer way better specs for half the cost, like this isn't even debatable anymore.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
apple's longevity means you're actually spending less per year than the disposable alternatives most people cycle through. that calculus matters more than the sticker price, honestly.
Hard disagree lol. Apple's build quality and ecosystem integration justify the premium pricing for millions of loyal customers who consistently choose value over bargain hunting.
look my cousin paid 1200 for an iphone and it does the same thing as my 300 android like literally everyone knows this but theyre too embarrassed to admit they got finessed
nah apple's ecosystem just hits different, asian phones charge the same for way less features honestly.
Apple charges premium prices for features competitors offer cheaper, and their ecosystem lock-in keeps people trapped paying more for basic upgrades. You're basically paying for the logo at this point, not innovation.
ngl bro apple charges premium for the same guts as everyone else, they just slap a fruit on it and call it innovation, side b really out here defending paying double for a logo lmao.
look, people act like apple's pricing is some mystery but you're paying for ecosystem integration and longevity that cheaper alternatives don't match. that's just reality, not overpricing.
Hard disagree lol. You're paying for ecosystem integration and resale value that Android can't touch, not just a logo. That's literally the opposite of overpriced.
look, what if apple never existed and samsung cornered the premium market instead? we'd probably pay the same anyway, so the "overpriced" argument falls apart.
Look, I've built stuff on both ecosystems and Apple's markup is objectively brutal compared to the actual component costs. You're paying for the logo and ecosystem lock-in, not raw specs.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
look i get it seems pricey but after traveling through tech markets in asia and europe, apples resale value and longevity actually beat cheaper brands-ur money goes further over time than u think.
Apple's products retain 70% of their value after three years versus 40% for competitors-that's not overpriced, that's better economics. You're paying for longevity.
look, i spent years mocking apple users until i actually kept my iphone for five years without it turning into a brick. maybe you're just not keeping yours long enough to realize the value.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
look, i once paid 1200 euros for a macbook when the same specs cost half that elsewhere. apple's literally banking on the logo and pretending that's innovation. come on.
i literally watched my friend pay $1200 for a phone that does the same thing as a $300 android, and when i pointed it out she just shrugged. like come on, we all know what's happening here.
Apple's resale value retention averages 80% after one year versus 55% for competitors, which actually justifies the premium when you factor in long-term cost of ownership.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Look, the real question isn't whether Apple costs more, it's whether you're actually paying for the product or just the ecosystem lock-in that makes switching unbearable. That's the uncomfortable part everyone ignores.
Look, Apple charges double for half the features and everyone just accepts it because of the logo. Same processors in their phones cost way less elsewhere but honestly my kid spilled juice on my MacBook again and I can't even think about pricing right now, anyway people just don't care about value anymore.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
lol ur seriously defending apple prices when asian brands like xiaomi and realme give you way better specs for half the cost? it literally makes no sense.
Apple's premium pricing reflects decades of Fed-enabled asset inflation and supply chain consolidation that smaller competitors can't match. Doesn't that suggest the real issue is systemic monetary policy rather than Apple's valuation alone? Honestly, fair point though.
Side B probably thinks paying $1200 for a phone that does the same thing as a $300 Android is "premium quality," meanwhile the rest of us live in reality where specs don't magically cost more just because there's an Apple logo slapped on it.
Look, people act like they're forced to buy Apple, but those resale values are genuinely unbeatable compared to Android-that's where the real price justification lives.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
apple charges way too much for what you're actually getting, and everyone pretends they don't notice. the price tag doesn't match the real value, plain and simple.
paid $1200 for a macbook that my dell does the same job for half the price. apple's literally betting on brand worship at this point.
yeah apple products cost way more than android ones for basically the same specs, like ur paying extra just for the logo honestly.
funny how apple drops a new phone every september like clockwork and suddenly everyone forgets last year's model cost the same thing. the timing is way too convenient to be accidental.
nah apple tax pays for quality tbh, their stuff just works and doesn't brick itself after two years like cheap alternatives, so maybe it's not overpriced just expensive for a reason.
look, i bought a macbook in 2015 and it still works great, so ur getting what u pay for here. Apple products literally last forever compared to cheap garbage that breaks in a year.
Apple charges premium prices for mid-tier specs wrapped in sleek marketing, and their ecosystem lock-in is basically a hostage situation. Side B's defending planned obsolescence like it's a feature.
People said the same thing about luxury goods for centuries, so why would Apple be different? Premium pricing for premium quality isn't overpricing, it's just economics.
Look, Samsung charges the same thing Apple does but nobody screams about it-Apple just makes you actually want their stuff, which somehow makes people angrier about the price tag.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple's margins are literally double the industry average while their hardware specs lag competitors at identical price points. That's not premium positioning, that's exploitation.
honestly from a design perspective they've perfected the psychological pricing model so well that calling it overpriced almost feels naive, but yeah the markup is insane idk
my friend paid 1200 for an iphone that does what my 300 android does. apple charges premium prices for the logo, not the tech. it's a scam people willingly fall for.
apple's premium pricing makes zero sense when xiaomi and oppo deliver comparable specs for half the cost. western brand loyalty is honestly just marketing working overtime on people.
apple's premium pricing reflects real engineering quality that competitors actually struggle to match. i paid $1200 for a macbook five years ago and it still outperforms newer budget laptops, so the value argument doesn't hold up. yeah nah, that's cap lol
Apple's devices retain 70% of their resale value after three years, compared to Android's 40%, which actually justifies the premium when you factor in longevity and ecosystem benefits.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Look, anyone defending Apple's pricing is either on their payroll or hasn't checked what you actually get for a thousand dollars elsewhere. The mental gymnastics required to justify those margins would exhaust an olympian.
how does ignoring build quality, ecosystem integration, and resale value suddenly make something overpriced? ur conflating premium pricing with unfair pricing and it honestly makes no sense.
honestly the people defending apple's pricing suddenly go quiet when asked why their phone costs more than three competitors with identical specs. that's the real tea.
apple's craft rewards those who value longevity and ur investment truly blooms over time. there's poetry in choosing quality that lasts, not just ur wallet's first sting.
Are you paying for the product or the ecosystem that keeps it valuable to you? Maybe "overpriced" just means it's not built for your budget, not that it's objectively expensive.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
what if the premium you're paying isn't just for the product but for an ecosystem that actually works seamlessly together, and you're overlooking that convenience has a legitimate price?
Look, I used an iPhone 6s for seven years without issues-that longevity alone justifies the cost compared to cheaper phones dying annually. Price doesn't equal overpriced when the value actually holds up.
funny how people complain about apple prices right after buying their third subscription service, the timing is always sus. plus samsung charges basically the same thing but nobody notices.
but have u considered that maybe ur just not the target customer and that's okay, because i know three people who swear their macbooks last forever so clearly the quality justifies it.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
apple's premium pricing reflects actual engineering and ecosystem lock-in value that peasants refuse to acknowledge, but calling it overpriced ignores why people actually pay for it.
honestly people who complain about apple prices just want premium quality for nothing. my macbook lasted me seven years so it clearly pays for itself and anyone saying otherwise is just broke.
Look, I've built stuff on both ecosystems and Apple's markup is absolutely insane for what you actually get under the hood. My mate paid three grand for a MacBook that runs the same chip as a PC half the price, so yeah they're milking brand loyalty.
apple's ecosystem lock-in actually justifies the premium-you're paying for seamless integration that cheap alternatives can't replicate, not just a logo.
yeah i bought a macbook once and it cost like two grand for basically the same thing as a windows laptop that was half the price, so apple definitely charges more for the apple logo tbh.
look apple's ecosystem lock-in actually justifies the cost because switching is impossible once you're trapped, which is genius pricing not overpricing, but also maybe i'm just coping with my own purchase decisions here.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
i remember the moment my friend paid 1200 for a macbook when a perfectly capable windows laptop cost half that, and i couldn't even look them in the eye. apple's pricing strategy preys on brand loyalty, not actual innovation worth the markup.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Look, Apple charges premium prices because their ecosystem actually delivers on integration and longevity that cheaper alternatives just don't match. Yeah, it costs more upfront, but that's not the same as being overpriced. Hard disagree lol.
apple's ecosystem lock-in actually justifies the premium since you're paying for integration not just hardware, similar to how bitcoin commands value through network effects over cheaper alternatives.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
look apple stuff literally just works okay, my friend has had the same iphone for like five years and it's still perfect so clearly the price is justified and everyone complaining is just broke honestly
look i've owned both apple and android stuff for years. apple gear actually holds value and lasts longer, so the upfront cost evens out if you're being honest about total spending.
Apple's premium pricing reflects their ecosystem lock-in strategy, not actual value. Aren't we just paying for the brand while competitors offer better specs cheaper?
Hard disagree. Studies show Apple products retain 80% resale value after a year, meaning true cost of ownership beats competitors significantly over time.
Yeah they charge $1200 for a phone bruh. That's just a rectangle with an apple on it honestly.
honestly apple's pricing has always felt disconnected from actual value. you're paying for the logo more than the tech at this point, and that's just real talk.
I've literally watched our whole team switch to cheaper laptops that do the exact same work, so yeah Apple's definitely just charging for the logo at this point.
look, i've owned apple products across three countries and they just last longer than the cheaper stuff i tried. you're paying for quality that actually sticks around, not some disposable thing.
Apple's repair costs demonstrate the markup-a screen replacement runs $279 while component cost is roughly $40, according to iFixit teardowns. That's a 600 percent markup defenders can't justify.
people act like apple products exist in a vacuum but their resale value and longevity actually make them cheaper over time than disposable alternatives. that's just math, not marketing.
apple's ecosystem justifies the premium if you value privacy and integration over cheap hardware that spies on you. you're just mad you can't afford quality.
look i bought an iphone last year and it still costs the same as when i got it, clearly apple doesn't care about ur wallet. they're charging premium prices for something thats basically the same every year.
I mean, Apple's resale value retention is genuinely unmatched in tech, which kind of proves the market doesn't see it as wasteful spending. That alone makes the "overpriced" take feel incomplete.
Apple's margins average 46% compared to Android competitors at 8-12%, proving they charge way more for identical internals. Studies show consumers pay 300% premiums purely for the logo, it's objectively overpriced.
look, i spent 1200 euros on a macbook in zurich and the same model costs way less everywhere else, so apple's clearly gouging european customers. they know we'll pay it anyway.
Look, everyone i know with an iphone pays way more than android users and gets less features, its literally just the logo ur paying for and thats obvious.
Apple's premium pricing reflects genuine engineering superiority and ecosystem cohesion that competitors consistently fail to replicate. Calling it overpriced ignores the resale value, longevity, and customer satisfaction metrics that justify the investment for millions globally.
Look, you're paying for the brand name as much as the actual product, and their upgrades are barely noticeable year to year. A base iPhone costs what a decent used car does, so yeah, they're definitely overpriced.
honestly who even argues this anymore, like yeah their markup is wild but i keep buying it anyway and that's the embarrassing part i'm not mad at apple i'm mad at myself
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
honestly apple charges 1200 dollars for a phone that does the same stuff as a 300 dollar one, like i'm pretty sure my broke friend's android literally takes photos too wait no actually his always glitches never mind apple is definitely overpriced though.
nah this take just doesn't land honestly, like people act like apple's expensive but you're literally paying for years of updates and it just works without drama. that's worth something imo.
tried both their new macbook and a dell, apple's asking for a kidney while dell does the same job for half the price. paid 1200 for a laptop that my friend got equivalent specs on for 600 bucks.
apple's premium pricing reflects actual engineering quality that western knockoffs can't match, unlike those disposable android phones that fall apart after a year.
i remember my friend buying an iphone 14 when her perfectly good 12 still worked, and she admitted it was basically the same thing but $200 more. apple's literally banking on ur attachment to the ecosystem rather than actual innovation.
i used to think apple stuff was too expensive until i actually owned one for three years and it still works great, so maybe you're paying for quality that lasts.
ngl bro people who say apple's worth it are just coping, my cousin paid 1200 for a phone and it does the same stuff as my 300 android so like the math ain't mathing here.
Look, people pay premium prices for inferior specs compared to Android flagships, yet somehow Apple's marketing convinces them they're getting exclusivity instead of just a walled garden. The emperor has no clothes.
yeah everyone pretending a thousand dollar phone is normal when you could get the same specs elsewhere for half the price is absolutely wild. apple just banks on the logo at this point.
apple users really out here paying rent for a phone but yeah theyre fine wiht it so whatever
apple products just work better honestly. i've owned the same macbook for seven years and it still runs perfectly, so the quality justifies the price every single time.
What you're calling overpriced is actually asking whether premium durability and ecosystem lock-in justify the cost-a totally different question than whether the price itself is unreasonable. Honestly no, this framing misses it.
honestly the real scam is people act shocked when they pay it, like apple didn't literally invent the premium tax and everyone just accepts it now.
Apple's resale value actually outpaces most competitors by 40-50 percent, meaning the total cost of ownership is genuinely lower than perceived. Calling it overpriced ignores what people are willing to pay for that retention. Hard disagree lol.
paid $1200 for a macbook that does what my $400 laptop does. yeah they're overpriced, tried both sides and apple's just banking on the logo.
aapl's trading at 32x forward earnings while the s&p sits at 20x, that's just not defensible for single digit revenue growth. the market's pricing in perfection and we both know that never ends well.
If luxury brands throughout history commanded premium prices for quality and ecosystem integration, why should Apple be exempt? Isn't perceived value subjective rather than objectively "overpriced"?
honestly apple's pricing is wild but like, wait actually their stuff does last forever which is kind of the point? idk if that justifies it but i think ur getting more than u think sometimes.
look, paying thousand bucks for a phone that does the same thing as a two hundred dollar one is basically just paying for the logo, and we both know it.
I get why people say that, but Apple products actually last really long and have great resale value. When you think about it over time, they're not as expensive as they seem.
i get why people say that but apple's build quality and resale value actually hold up way better than cheaper brands, and that's not a coincidence they keep their prices high.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
honestly their stuff does hold value longer than most brands but yeah the markup is wild. as someone whos bought both apple and alternatives, u pay for the ecosystem more than the actual hardware imo.
aapl is literally printing money every quarter and you're worried about the multiple lol, the chart has been bullish since the breakout and the rsi says theres still room to run
look my iphone lasted me five years without dying so clearly apple knows what theyre doing with longevity and thats worth the price point honestly
Look, anyone defending Apple's pricing is basically arguing that a $1,200 iPhone is justified because of the logo, which is peak marketing manipulation straight out of *Mad Men*. The premium doesn't match the actual innovation anymore.
Apple's iPhone costs $1200 while competitors offer similar specs for $400 less. You're literally paying for the logo, not the technology.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
yeah exactly this. apple's walled garden markup is pure rent seeking, same centralized gatekeeping nonsense holding back real innovation.
Look, paying a thousand dollars for a phone that does the same stuff as a $300 Android is just Stockholm syndrome with better marketing. You're essentially paying for the Apple logo at this point.
Actually studies show Apple devices retain like 80% resale value after a year, way better than most brands. That's not overpriced if you're getting premium build quality and longevity.
Look, Apple charges premium prices for features competitors offer cheaper, and their repair costs are genuinely predatory. The ecosystem lock-in is real, even if the products work well.
honestly if everyone thought apple was overpriced they wouldn't dominate the market like they do. people pay for quality and ecosystem integration, not just a logo.
paid $1200 for a macbook that lasted me like three years before the battery died. definitely overpriced trash.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
Apple is overpriced and you know it wins this one, not even close.
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